Decision Time : In or Out – Sky News 23 Jun 2016 21:30

Decision Time : In or Out – Sky News 23 Jun 2016 21:30

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Good evening from Manchester.
It is going to be here in the
neo-Gothic spider of the city’s
Townhall. Sometime around breakfast
time tomorrow the UK will find it
whether it has voted to remain or
lead in the European Union. Just
under 46 and half million people
have been eligible to vote today,
across England, Wales, Scotland,
Northern Ireland and the British
Overseas Territory of Gibraltar.
In less than half an hour,
the polls will close
Polling stations opened at 7am
in the UK but these people
in Gibraltar which is one hour ahead
were the first to cast their votes.
In London, David Cameron
and his wife Samantha voted
in Westminster earlier.
They’re expected to spend
the night in Downing Street
awaiting the result.
And Labour’s leader Jeremy Corbyn
voted in North London.
While Vote Leave figurehead
Michael Gove placed his vote
in West London, with his wife
and journalist Sarah Vine.
The Ukip leader Nigel Farage voted
near his home in north Kent.
Scotland’s First Minister
and in campaigner Nicola Sturgeon
cast her ballot in Glasgow.
The Labour MP and out campaigner
Gisela Stuart took her family
to vote in Central London,
as she had already cast her
ballot in a postal vote.
But torrential rains overnight meant
some polling stations like this one
in Chessington in Surrey
were forced to close.
other of the electoral commission
stress that everybody wanted to vote
should still be able to in those
Here in Manchester, they’re
fulfilling three roles.
Officials here at the town hall
are coordinating the national count
across the UK and the regional count
for the north west of England.
Breakfast time in their best
estimate for the time.
They’ll be watching the results
announced here more
avidly than anywhere,
at the Leave and Remain campaign
headquarters in London.
The votes of the people
of Manchester itself will be
counted down the road
at the Manchester Central
Convention Centre.
We expect that result
at around 5am.
They’ll be watching the results
announced here more
avidly than anywhere,
at the Leave and Remain campaign
headquarters in London.
My colleague Kay Burley will be
tracking them through
the night.
A very good evening to you, it has
been a long road but the campaign
teams can do no more. I will be the
party girl tonight, flitting between
the stronger in campaign and the
Levy EU group gatherings. Time for
the campaigners who worked nonstop
since the starting gun was fired to
relax over a glass and watch the
results come in. From Gibraltar to
Yarmouth to Northern Ireland, there
is a lot of counting to be done
tonight. I am starting off here with
the “Stronger in group” and then
heading across the Thames…
Well I am here at the headquarters
of Leave EU where they are playing
to hold a party win or lose. I’m
standing at the Millbank Tower on
the 29th floor overlooking
Parliament and the River Thames. In
the past is building has seen
celebrations of political victories
by Tony Blair, David Cameron, and
Boris Johnson. Leave EU is a group
mainly made up of Ukip supporters
and why not or to Labour MPs. Nigel
Farage will be here later on as well
as some of the MPs to back this
campaign. We have got entertainment
backed up, win or lose, here at
Millbank Tower they intend to have a
party. Here at the stronger in, we
are expecting the organiser, we have
already seen him, he is heading off
for somebody eat and will be back
around 10pm or thereabouts. In the
wee small hours they’re going to
start finding out whether all of
that work was worth it. Here we will
have a clear idea in the wee small
hours which way the UK has voted.
One party will be a full on
celebration, the other is going to
be more likely a weight. We are
really not sure which way does going
to go just yet. As I said we are
starting here with stronger in that
we are heading across the Thames to
the party where Jon Craig is. Either
said, I am the lucky party girl
tonight. They tuned throughout the
rest of the evening here on sky.
That’s a much partying yeti year, K,
at Westminster. We will be seeing
guests are at the night here as
well. Also, as ever on Sky News…
you will be able to see the very
latest on the state of this
referendum whenver you need it.
We’ll do it here in the bottom
part of your screen.
First you can keep an eye
on the vote tally here
in the right hand corner.
The latest results from each area
will appear here below me,
on our referendum vidiprinter.
Every single result tonight.
And key facts and results will be
flashed across the top of that
to give you what you need to know.
Now voting is still underway, some
23 odd minutes left. If you want to
cast your vote, and if you are at
the polling station in time, the
rules are that you will be allowed
to vote if you are in the queue.
Would you have not done it, you’ve
still got time. Meanwhile, waiting
for this post to close is our
political editor Faisal Islam who is
in Downing Street. Cannot talk about
the result yet Faisal, voting is
still going on but by any measure
this is very historic night. A truly
historic night, Adam. 23 minutes
until the polls close. Very
important to stress that if you’re
IQ before ten o’clock will get to
vote. — in that queue. It is a
moment of history, it will have
implications beyond our relationship
with Europe. Implications for
politics. Indeed number ten and
number 11 will be watching this very
carefully and it will be watching
the comings and goings here
tomorrow, whatever the result, for
the Conservative Party but not just
for the Conservative Party but for
three or four of the major parties
of British politics, there could be
in vocations about whether it is
Remain or Leave and the margin of
victory as well. So a moment in
history not as far relationship with
Europe upper British politics as
well. We will hear again from Faisal
Islam just after 10pm when we know
what he’s from various camps.
With us right through the night
analysing all the results
is my colleague Ed Conway.
He’ll have more on what to expect
at Sky News Centre.
Incidentally, one fact we do have is
that the potential electorate is
record numbers. Thanks Adam, let us
give you a sense of how this will
evolve over the course of the
Every voter in the UK is part
of one of 382 voting areas
which are spread across the country.
You can see them there on our map.
As the results come in,
they’ll be announced
for each area first.
But not all voting areas
are created equal.
Some have got bigger populations,
and so more voters.
The biggest is Northern
Ireland which is counted
as one big voting area.
There are more than one
and a quarter million voters here.
But as go across to
Birmingham and Leeds
are in second and third.
And to give you an idea of scale,
those biggest three places
have about the same number of voters
as 49 of the smallest
voting areas in England.
so very substantial indeed, those
three places. Let’s have a look at
There are 32 voting areas
in Scotland and 22 in Wales.
London is split into 33 voting
areas, which look small on the map,
but actually they have big
populations in total,
5.4 million voters in the capital.
But there are plenty
of smaller areas too.
Don’t forget Gibraltar also gets
a vote we’ve marked that
on our map here.
And the size of the counting area
dictates how quickly
we expect their results tonight.
The first place to declare is likely
to be somewhere with a small
population, so the City of London,
say, or the Isles of Scilly.
The latter has told us it
could deliver a result
as early as 11pm.
So very soon indeed.
The first larger places to declare
are likely to be urban,
you’ve got dependable Sunderland
or Wandsworth in South London,
both expected around
half past midnight.
The largest places will be later,
Birmingham at around 4:00am
or Leeds around 5:00am.
All being well, we’ll know the final
result by breakfast.
We’ll be bringing you the most
detailed analysis tonight
of the results as they come in.
In Sky News Centre we have
our Elections Analyst
Professor Michael Thrasher.
Michael, this is, as we say, a
historic event. I think the third
nationwide referendum we have had.
We cannot talk about much, what
about turnout targets from previous
referendums? There has been a great
deal of speculation about how
interested people would be with this
referendum. Of course, we fully to
be rather higher than the AV
referendum that we had about the
voting system. We see here Boris
Johnson and his wife Marina Wheeler
voting live. Boris Johnson spent
most of the day at his daughter’s
graduation ceremony in Scotland.
That makes play one is late there.
There is two more on the turnout,
Adam. There is a great deal of
speculation about the turnout. We
have a feeling it is a general
election proportions and we feel in
some places it may even be higher
than that. Which side the high
turnout favours, we really do not
know at this particular time. There
is a great deal of speculation about
that relationship between turnout
and who it helps, but as of yet we
are still waiting on that. At the
general election, I think the
turnout was 66%. The last European
referendum in this country, the
turnout was 64%. So we will see
whether either of those benchmarks
will be… I do not forget of
course, in the Scottish referendum
we had a record high turnout there
up well over 80%. And so there were
various benchmarks that we can
measure. The important thing that
turnout is that areas tend to vote
in relation to one another. So high
turnout areas and low turnout areas
tend to move together for different
kinds of elections. Michael, thank
you very much.
And we’ll be tracking
more than thirty counts
across this referendum night.
When the results are ready
to declare, we’ll go there live
and see which way they go,
and the country with them.
Here in Sunderland, they’ve made
a tradition of being first
to declare on election nights.
In May last year, Bridget Phillipson
was elected MP for Houghton
and Sunderland South at 10:48pm,
the sixth general election in a row
this count had come first.
Here they’re readying to receive
the first ballot boxes
Everyone in place,
and are predicting the result
could come by just after midnight.
But there are other runners
in the race to be first.
Darlington, 30 miles south of here,
is predicted to declare around 1:30.
Westminster in London could be
one of the first areas
to declare in the capital,
that’s also predicted around 1:30am.
Or could Gibraltar trump everyone?
They’ve had a head
start because there,
voting is already over.
is all about speed here, how do they
go about it Knight results so
quickly? Dev teams of runners. One
of them is with me here, Aidan
Fletcher. So tell me, you are one of
70 runners, what is your job? We
collect all of the boxes in the bags
and pass them along. They will go
straight to all of the counters
stood that they can count as quickly
as possible so Sunderland give the
first… I think there are something
like 200 counters here. I do have a
real sense of pride about being
first year. Definitely. Good luck on
the get in position. Let us talk to
Sue Stanhope.
the Chief Counting Officer
for Sunderland City Council.
When the polls close, we will have
the postal boxes that the that bang
on ten o’clock, we have opened them
before but we will not be doing
anything with them. We’ll be ready
to start at 10pm. And then we start
to see the first of the polling
station boxes come in. So let’s
expect the first one anywhere about
three or four minutes past ten
o’clock. And BAM is to keep the
tradition going, being first. That
is a tradition that was established
back in 1992 — the aim is to. Our
priority first and foremost is to
have a safe and accurate count. I
being efficient, hopefully we are
also fast that will be a bonus, but
is really important that we make
sure it is accurate and. First would
be great. The general election last
year, you declared it at 10:48pm.
You’re not expecting it that early
tonight. No, it is a slightly
different process and it will be
slightly later. Can you tell me how
the process differs from the general
election here tonight — from the
general election. We have three
constituencies, so there was only a
third of the boats that we were
counting for the general election.
Clearly we are just part of the
Northeast and we will also be
sharing that result with people. Sue
Stanhope, thank you very much
indeed. So not long to go until the
polling stations close and then the
race will be on to declare here in
Sunderland. Sarah, I am sure you
will be among the quickest tonight.
You’re watching Decision
Time live on Sky News.
Coming up, the view from Gibraltar.
We’re an hour ahead here
and the polls have already closed
as this British territory,
best known for its monkeys,
has its say in the referendum.
You’re watching
Decision Time: In or Out?
Live on Sky News.
Welcome to Gibraltar,
otherwise known as the rock!
This 2.6 square mile outpost
at the tip of Spain is the only
British Overseas Territory whose
inhabitants have been able
to have a say in
today’s EU referendum.
24,000 people here have been
eligible to vote, and their votes
will technically be counted as part
of the southwest England region.
As well as the 30,000 people who
actually live here, another 10,000
crossed the border from Spain to
come and work every single day.
Because of the time difference, the
polls opened an hour earlier here
have already closed.
We expect this count to be among
the first to declare
at around 1:30pm local time,
that’s 12:30pm UK time.
One place they will be watching
the results tonight,
more closely than almost anywhere
else, is in Brussels.
Sky’s Diplomatic Editor
Dominic Waghorn is there.
Evening to you, Dominick, they will
be watching tonight but we do not
expect any reaction until the
morning. I think that is right,
Samantha. They’re watching and
waiting, all of the various branches
of European government, waiting for
the outcome of this historic vote.
The European Parliament here behind
me is the crossroads is the
Parliament. Underneath that European
Union flag. We have got various
photographs of polling stations in
the UK being flashed up there. I
think it reflects that this is a
vote being watched very much at the
centre of European institutions
here. A few cameras here so far, not
many, but I think people will be
gathering here through the night and
in the morning waiting for official
reactions. The key meeting will be
when the European Council President
meets with the European Parliament
president and John could younger,
decommission president at 10:30am.
— John cloud junker.
Otherwise, not much to report other
than the extraordinary whether they
are having here come a thunderstorm,
monsoon weather. So a remarkable
night but politically and
meteorologically here in Brussels.
These fixers are coming to us from
South London. People are being told
that they can vote if very night
queue before 10pm.
Tonight’s vote is arranged across
three levels across the country.
There are local counts
for individual council areas.
There is the national count centre
where my colleague Jayne Secker
is in Manchester.
But between, there are twelve
regional count venues
and here in Birmingham
is one of them.
Here they are not just counting
the results for Birmingham itself,
but collating the results
for the whole of the West Midlands.
Sky’s Mike McCarthy is in another
English region tonight,
Yorkshire and the Humber,
and the regional count in Leeds.
Yes, welcome to Leeds and the first
direct arena in the city centre
where 490 counters are preparing for
what is likely to be a very long
night. A long night because Leeds is
one of the later local areas which
will make it stick what race and out
of all 21 local declarations that
are being covered and fed into this
particular spot tonight. That is, as
you say, is the regional hub for
Yorkshire and Humber. So when they
have got all of those 21 results
ending with leads, then they will
make the overall declaration which
will be fed into Manchester and the
national vote. That one of the
things that is what is slightly
delay proceedings here this evening
is that at 1130, Leeds and many of
the other 21 local founded in the
Yorkshire and Humber region, will be
observing a minute’s silence in
memory of the late MP Jo Cox who was
killed in her constituency last
week. Very close to Leeds in the
town of birth stock. So that will
happen it at 11:30pm. Good evening
from the Emirates arena in Glasgow.
Just a hop skip and a jump away
from… It feels like the electoral
cycle here in Scotland has been
going as fast as the great Man
himself. This will be the fourth
major medical event in Scotland in
the last 18 months. We had the
referendum, the general elections,
and now a vote on continued
membership in the EU. Roughly 4
million votes could be cast here in
Scotland. In fact exactly, it is
3,000,980 6898.
— 3,980 6898.
in terms of what we are expecting
hearing Glasgow tonight, we will be
getting an idea at around one IM,
some predictions that we could be
here as late as 5am to hear about a
result. The whole of Scotland not
being collated here but elsewhere…
We will bring you the results as we
get them.
That figure of 55,000 feeding into
more than 111,000 people who were
eligible to vote in this district.
Where in the Eastern region, which
ranges from Basildon to Waverly,
quite a large area, about 47 counts
there are in this region here
tonight. Once the votes are
collated, they will be sent along to
the regional count which is in
Chelmsford. Now we are being told
that because of the weather that has
been occurring today that the actual
boxes coming in will be late, submit
prediction of a foray AM count and
declaration of a bully will not
happen and that will be pushed
forward. — 4am. Welcome to the
Titanic exhibition centre, part of
the site where the Titanic HMS was
built. Tonight is where the counting
officer will announce the official
result for the Northern Ireland
voting area, and it is the biggest
counting area in the UK with one and
a quarter million people eligible to
vote. Although it is classified as a
single counting area, there are
actually a different venues around
the province where counting is
taking place. Here, they’re going to
adjudicate and verify and collate
them. They’re also doing a bit of
counting of their own. They’re
actually something Doi…
We are expecting counting to get
underway as soon as the polls close
at 10pm. The first provisional
results should come at about
midnight. But we will not get that
official result for the whole
Northern Ireland region until about
five in the morning. Thank you very
much indeed, Anna. Record numbers of
people eligible to vote today, we
cannot know how many of them voted.
That included citizens of the UK,
Ireland, and of the Commonwealth who
have been resident here. Not
European citizens, however. So
across the country, across the UK,
and across Europe in Gibraltar,
thousands of election officials are
waiting to count the ballots. The
close of polls is now just moments
It is too late to change your mind
now. The polls have closed. By
breakfast tomorrow, we should know
whether Britain is staying or
leaving. The European Union. Tonight
on decision time, the most important
political decision the UK will make
for decades. We will be bringing you
the results and analysis from places
across the country, live and
uninterrupted. Sky News has cameras
from the islands north of sculptural
and to Gibraltar on the southern tip
of Europe. And immediately, breaking
news. He is on Downing Street
tonight, not a vote has been counted
yet, but we got some surprising
Indic invitations of how people
think this will go. Take this with a
pinch of salt, but we have spoken to
Nigel Farage, the letter of Ukip,
but the other Leave Campaign, he is
a statement as the polls close. This
is Nigel Farage.
It is
It is not quite a concession, put a
pinch of salt on that, I would put a
giant vat of salt on that. But the
believe that EU have commissioned
the 10,000 person Paul and that is
informing Nigel Farage’s view. So
let us part with that for a minute.
What we do know from all sides is
that they are expecting a turnout to
be huge. Eventually bigger than a
general election. People are talking
about 70%. There were long queues
outside of areas, where both the Rae
vote is strong and the Leave about a
strong too. And labour areas, and
his Word, conservative MP, turnout
is extraordinary. That is not
necessarily good for the labour
choices of Remain. But that is the
labour vote coming out for leave
vote. Right now, they are cautiously
optimistic, on the remain side of
the agenda. The bigger picture is
all of this, that detail really
matters. Nigel Farage is sounding
rather pessimistic. We shall see.
Important thing to remember is that
tonight, unlike any general
election, there is no broadcaster
exit poll. They say the model used
by Sky News, the BBC, a general
elections, cannot be applied to a
one-off event like this referendum.
However, the online polls that have
been busy throughout today, they
have asked 5000 keep on how they
voted. And these are people that
have reduced the questions us. And
he is with us now, he will tell us
about it now. YouGov went back to
the people. To see if they were
going to change. The last poll you
had was remain 51%, and leave 49%.
There has been a small change. Based
on that. We now expect that the
United Kingdom will remain part of
the United Kingdom — European
Union. It is still close. It is
still too early to note anything.
But based on the figures that we are
seeing, based on the trends, based
on the historical president, we
think that this is the case. If you
take an average of the polls are the
campaign, it would be pretty close.
The campaign has seen a lot of
movements. The move towards the new
option, and a move towards the
status quo. We have heard from Nigel
Farage, he thinks it will be a
turnout of general election
proportions or more. Any idea on
turnouts? Turnout is always
difficult to predict. It does appear
to be high. Thank you very much
indeed. That is what the pollsters
and Ukip are saying. What could
point the path to two nights vote.
Mike colleague Ed Conway that the
big screen. To the key that could be
the outcome of two nights vote. The
particularly, the Eurosceptic, it is
the most Eurosceptic area in the
country. We are expecting people to
vote overwhelmingly in favour of
leaving the use EU. Including
tendering, and Sussex, and Senate
and over as well. Towards the south
coast. All of these have relatively
small populations. And in a
referendum, every vote counts.
Summer Lake Sunderland, which has
twice as many residents as
tendering, for instance and last
years local elections, this could
prove pivotal to the results. But
the largest populations of all live
it the other end of our Eurosceptic
scale. London boroughs are all
expected to vote in favour of
remaining in the EU. We will be live
and many of them, including bowls
worth. Scotland cup de son favour of
staying. Potential in the case of
Brexited. It will be imported in
areas like Aberdeen, Fife and
Edinburgh. Keep an eye on the
university towns. Like Oxford,
Cambridge, and York
We will be ahead of the official
announcement in Manchester of the
final result unless it gets close,
indeed. As we have been hearing the
UGOV poll says it is 58-42 to
remain. We understand the pound has
gone up. It is at the highest level,
one dollar and 50 cents, the highest
since the start of this year. The
parents are — the markets are
reacting to the fact, apparently,
the UK will remain in the EU. Of
course, no votes have been counted.
52-48 would be within the margin of
error. That appears to be the
function of the markets, at the
moment. We are just seeing the
ballot papers rushing in where Sarah
Hewson is. That quite extraordinary
statement from Nigel Farage, saying
he believes they have edged it at
this early stage… You like thank
you, indeed. It is livening up here
after the remain a party. That UGOV
poll is making a buzzing here. I’ll
attack to Lord Ashton, but let’s see
if we can talk to these gentlemen.
Are you feeling about it? It is
exciting, it is exciting and it is a
glorious day of democracy in the UK.
Are you feeling confident? I said
this would be a close result and I
still believe it will be so. If I
was forced to call it… Go on. I am
reasonably confident remain get the
results but, it could easily go the
other way. We don’t have results,
but turnout figures. You have been
broadcasting them but it is too
early to call. A good day for
democracy, people decide and that
was always the basis of our
campaign. We sought to present to be
stronger in team, the fact that
supported our case. Your viewers
have two way defect between this and
the other side to figure out what is
asked for Britain. We have made a
case for why it is the best thing to
stay in it for your family,
individual and community. You fought
a good campaign, did you, he did? He
should be praising you? We don’t
know who one yet but what he is
right about is the around the
country we are seeing a huge
turnout, today. We will see, but as
the gears from jewels are from 85%,
that is way up on general election.
I have been in London all day and
people have been wearing our
stickers. They have been in the
streets wearing our T-shirts and it
has been a carnival atmosphere, in a
way. I won’t overplay it, but there
is a sense work will have voted and
taken a car in the process, I feel
proud to see how they voted. We are
both from the labor side and on
election date you would struggle to
get this many people wearing a
sticker, but today have been taking
our in stickers. People have been
asking, had he voted? But of people
have said no, but today, people say,
remain. That is in one place, the
centre of the universe, by the way.
It could be different and other
parts of people haven’t been shot
coming forward, a good thing. You
have a smile on your faces, we will
later. Thank you. Lord Ashton having
a glass of wine. Hi, hi, hi! How are
you feeling about it? You want me to
make a prediction after last year
and I will make it again. Here is my
prediction. Nobody has a clue. At
this stage it is very, very, very
close. The polls show tonight, but
that is margin of error stuff. We
haven’t seen how the postal votes
break, the pound has gone up to the
highest levels of the city is
betting on remain but honestly, the
thing is, we don’t know. Nigel
Farage doesn’t know, either. We have
to be patient and we can’t make a
prediction before the votes are
counted. I want, but if I was, here
is what I would say. I don’t know,
and neither does anybody else.
52-48… Which should press ahead in
the press ahead enthusiastically
but, we will do with that later.
This is hypothesis and I understand
you guys need to do and I will help
you do it. The bottom line is nobody
knows. When do you think we will
know? They say 3:00pm or 4:00pm, and
they are good at that. It really is
tight, and if it is, it could go
until 1:00pm. Goodness knows, what
time? .Org that doesn’t happen. I
told, when the British government
make their summer decision in the
ballot box, every side says we
accepted, move on. That is what is
really important and we will have to
wait to see what that is. Great,
Lord Ashton, thank you very much,
indeed. Enjoy the view. This is the
remain a party. When we saw the 85%
turnout, at Gibraltar, there was a
huge sigh of relief here. The
feeling is that they have just
edited. Very early days, yet,
though. Adam, back to you. With me
are prominent figures on either side
of this particular referendum
battle. Neither of the House of
Commons, Cabinet Minister and the
leading member of leaf Adam Johnson
has led labor for Britain for the
campaign to remain in the EU. Hello.
Early stages, first of all. The Nou
Camp have already thrown in the
towel, according to a national
Farage. It is too early, the turnout
has been hot but if I look at my own
constituency is not as high in areas
that only have a low turnout. I
think we will only know the few
picture as the night goes on and,
friendly, no one is certain what the
result is going to be. We have to
think back to last year. Perhaps I
will wait and see when the votes are
counted. For the first time in weeks
I will agree with Chris. Let’s wait
for a post-match analysis. It was
always going to be tight, I think,
for the turnout in my constituency
which is what we go live. It looks
like higher than usual. The postal
votes certainly were, but they were
the people who bothered to do a
postal vote, who knows. I don’t
think you judge Gibraltar with it
though, that will always have a high
This is been consistent news from
Labour MPs across the country.
Working-class voters are turning
out. The rule of thumb is that that
is probably bad news for the
European Union. I don’t think so, I
think it is very healthy. They were
the demographic that… We’ve
applied the fact that they were
remained. I’m very pleased with the
numbers. He said that he was doing a
rain dance, he was hoping for rain.
He felt that a low turnout would be
good for them. Going to come back to
universal… Let’s go back to Faisal
Islam. And develop mints within the
Tory party. Yes, this
much-anticipated save Dave letter.
Has been delivered to Downing Street
a few minutes ago. Organized by
Robert Syms, foreign Officer
minister. The personal secretary to
the Prime Minister, thinking David
Cameron. This is from Vote Leave
supporting MPs. Thinking the Prime
Minister for giving the choice. We
believe that whatever the British
people decide, you have both the
mandate and the duty to continue
leading the nation. Implementing our
policies. 84 Vote Leave Tory MPs
have signed this letter. So that
means if your glass half empty kind
of guy, but the 84 do include big
names, Boris Johnson, Liam Fox is on
there. Ariel Ed Saenz, we have
treated the names out. That is an
important development afterward is
been a bruising battle. 84 of the
MPs, who has supported the Vote
Leave Campaign, have offered a
letter of support to David Cameron.
He will be happy about that. You
very much. — thank you very much.
Is this win or lose? It is 15
months, since David Cameron in 1992.
We are put in place a broad range of
programmes. And that included giving
the country a choice of a
referendum. That referendum is now
over, we have given people that
option. It would be an absolute
nonsense if David Cameron had given
that choice, if they had taken the
decision… We are completely behind
him staying. That letter is a of
leadership stop why have you given
him such a kick, your colleagues,
for misrepresenting, not showing
leadership? You’ve
They are asking the Prime Minister
to say. At the unofficial campaign,
we can go now to our colleague,
John. This is the UK dominated wing
of the league campaign. Indeed, most
of the people are record to
supporters. They have been shocked
by the statement from Farage where
he comes close to conceding, he says
remain will add it. Some Ukip
sources claim their own polling
shows a different result from the
back or one analysis we have been
reporting. They are suggesting it is
leaf, 52%, remain, 48%. There is a
discrepancy, there. Having said
that, there is a lively party mood,
here. The band has been playing more
than a one night stand, but if biker
one are correct, Nigel Farage hasn’t
done enough to make the British
public fall in love with them. There
is bubble, aplenty. Most of the
people around the corner — we are
told he will come here around
11:00pm and address his supporters.
Will he be maintained his claim
that, perhaps, the remain appear to
have edged a? Was that, perhaps,
mind games about the Ukip leader? I
had to say, they are not
particularly downcast here. The mood
is pretty buoyant, the bubbly is
flowing despite the fact that our
Ugov. Just the fact or, that the
country has suggested, Remain has
edged it. To be clear, we have said
repeatedly there is no exit nothing
like an authority about the example,
but Ugov did a poll in that poll of
people who voted previously and they
showed a slight swing to remain with
52-48%. You are telling us there is
a private poll that Ukip have
conducted that shows the opposite?
That shows leave 52 and remained
48%, is that right? I haven’t seen
it yet, Adam, but that is what
hearing around ten A M. Others here
are a bit sceptical about those
figures, so let’s wait until we see
them. It is, apparently, polling
that Aaron thanks, the moneybags
bankroll or of Ukip has funded. It
is suggesting that leaf may have
edged it, rather than remain, as
Farage has suggested. As soon as we
get real evidence of that polling,
some numbers, we will obviously
bring them to you. Some sources are
claiming that their polling, which
they are clamming is 10,000, has got
a slight majority for the igniter
main. Thank you very much, indeed.
They are quoting Remain at a record
high of… It is a 6-1, that means
14%. The bookies have appeared to
make up their mind. Perhaps that is
why Nigel Farage is saying it looks
like Remain will edge it. Let’s go
to Brussels now to Dominic Waghorn.
Are the Europeans nervous about this
or are they fed up with the British?
I think they are watching it very
closely in there is a certain amount
of nerves here. One Swedish European
minister I spoke to said that she
was worried him a there is a sense
of alarm. That is probably the mood
that many EU officials here and
across the continent feel. Let’s get
the mood of one EMP, a Polish EMP.
And you are one of the vice
president of the European armament.
— Parliament. What is your sense of
what is going on. It seems the
bookies and pollsters and possibly
even the head of the… Suggesting
that Remain has won by a very narrow
margin. What is your reaction to
that? I am happy that we will
Romanian the European Union. I can
imagine — I can’t imagine the
European Union without the UK. But I
can’t imagine a powerful one —
European Union without the United
Kingdom. For British interest it is
to remain. In it is a good lesson
because there is a gap in
Eurosceptic -ism in our continent. I
have seen some mistakes from our
side. USA even if Remain wins this,
which is what he may be looking
like. There’s still a need for
fundamental changes afterwards. —
you are saying, even. Prime Minister
Cameron has said that in
translation. I hope tomorrow morning
after we wake up, they will stay in
the UK. Now we should think about
the future. The UK must speak an
integral part of the European Union
— must be.
I can’t imagine… We are hearing,
the polls have closed 19 minutes ago
and the counting is getting underway
in just a minute. It is something
that people here feel very strongly
about. We have just heard the
turnout was 83 points 6% the vast
majority would have voted to stay in
the EU it is believed. Even though
it has remained under ritual for 300
years, the issue of ownership
remains alive. Activities unveiled a
huge flag declaring that Gibraltar
was… Newbie perfectly possible to
I am joined by the chief Minister of
Gibraltar. A good evening to you.
The polls remain slightly ahead of
leave. It seems like Nigel Farage
has conceded. We have heard that
sterling is added highest against
the dollar since December. Are you
relieved? I have seen too many exit
polls, invoke and then the result of
the morning is quite different from
what you think. Tonight will be a
roller coaster. I wouldn’t be
confident in declaring this one way
or the other. I am sure the boat and
Gibraltar will be to remain. — the
boat in. We all have skin in the
game in terms of free movement. Our
frontier was one that was open by
the European treaty. They said we
are not coming into the freedom of
movement into the European
continent. Every one was to
travelling to Spain, are gateways
the frontier of Spain. It matters to
us. 10,000 people travel to
Gibraltar a day. Is it just that, is
it empty threats, will they close
the border? We have seen them do it
in 1969. Some of the rhetoric that
comes out is the same. What we like
— what we read about in the 60s and
70s. We read the Spanish press as
well as the British press in
Gibraltar every day. They are idle
threats, these are not the activism
came from Spain to unveil the flat.
This is the highest possible —
highest person possible. We must
vote on this referendum with an eye
to the threats that could surely
becoming a reality. You mentioned
the activism who unveiled the flag.
Are their message was this is a tax
haven here and what we are doing
doesn’t fit in with the rest of
Spain. By rethinking that Spanish
people, what happens here doesn’t
fit in with the rest of the country
and it is wrong? It would be just on
the extreme right of the Spanish
spectrum. We are far from a tax
haven. We are sharing information
with most of the world, we are going
to exchange ownership of all members
of the European Union. We have one
that hasn’t signed up come and we
are going to exchange information
with other 40 – 50 states in the
world. The Prime Minister himself
said we are not that as well. I
would like to look at what the
protective observers say. Thank you
for being with us on Sky News. We
are expecting a result pretty
shortly. They are closing the
account because it is only less than
20 for thousands. Around 130
Gibraltar time. I will bring it to
you live. We are here in Belfast,
the first boxes have arrived. It
will be a few hours before we get
the results of all of Ireland. It is
going to be watched incredibly
closely. Although this is a region,
3% of the population is here. It is
going to be watched so closely it is
going to matter more than anywhere
pals. This is the only place that
has a land border with another EU
country. That land border has played
a key part of his campaign. The
early predictions, if they are
wrong, in the UK has voted to leave,
by breakfast time Northern Ireland
could be where UK and in the EU
begins. There’s so much purpose on
that border. The Leave campaign say
nothing has to change. There is an
informal agreement between Northern
Ireland and the Republic that
predates their membership of the
European Union. And the Remain
campaign say you can’t do that, you
are leaving the EU to take control
of the border. It will be an
enormous task to strengthen that
border. It is 310 miles long, there
are multiple crossing point it would
be very difficult. But the Irish
government has been exploring the
possibility of custom post, that is
how seriously they are taking a
possibility. There is not just the
issue of migration,… One third of
the importance of the Republican
I’ve Ireland come from the United
Kingdom — across that border is Ł1
billion a week. One tiny statistic
people will be surprised by is the
fact that the London to Dublin air
route is the second busiest in the
world. The Republic of Ireland is
exporting more from the United
Kingdom then it was — does from
India, China and Brazil. Combined.
That is why the Irish Prime Minister
have been flying backwards and
forwards to the UK to appeal to the
Irish people living in the UK to get
out and vote. We assuming huge
campaign here, former Prime Minister
Tony Blair coming here, warning that
a Brexit might be problematic for
peace and stability. Indeed, we have
seen all the big hitters, the Prime
Minister, … People who played an
important part in the peace process.
That is because they recognise that
if the UK has voted to leave the EU,
Sinn Fein will pull for a referendum
on removing the Irish border.
Northern Ireland could be leaving.
And they will pull for another
referendum on Scottish independence.
It could be very destabilising for
the peace process if that happens to
be the result. On the basis of the
predictions in polls and how people
have voted in the past I made it
fairly clear that the majority of
nationalist would have voted to
remain on the unionist community is
divided I predict a summer in the
region of 55 – 45 for Northern
Ireland with the Remain camp. And to
what extent could that be influenced
by the subsidies that Ireland
receives. Some might argue it is
right even. It is a rural part of
the United Kingdom. In one year
alone farmers receive Ł380 million
in subsidies from the EU, the
farmers union did not take a
position on this because they
realised that their members are very
devout. The Northern Ireland
Secretary has been a prominent
figure in the Leave campaign as the
playmate of the British Government
and that they can replace the
subsidies. Most people realise that
is not realistic. And EU peace
funding, the EU has… To the tune
of Ł1.3 billion, there’s an awful
lot at stake for Northern Ireland if
the UK has voted to leave the
European Union. It is going to be a
fascinating result. Those first Alec
boxes are being counted here for the
Belfast region. We should get the
result of the whole of Northern
Ireland. In about — at about for a
clock- five o’clock. Here in Wells
to .2 million people are eligible to
vote. We are expecting the boat to
come at around five o’clock A M.
There are over 200 for example from
the United States, 50 from Japan. We
are talking about agriculture, 90%
of Welsh sheep and beef is sold to
the European Union. Welsh assembly
is a Labour majority probably in
favour of Europe. Having said all of
that, we sought the Welsh assembly
that there is a lot of apathy from
traditional labour voters in
particular that are disengaged from
politics and they are very concerned
about immigration. Ukip got more
seats in the Welsh assembly just
last month. That in itself telling
what a big story. And of course
taught us till we know that is a big
deal for voters. There is a
perception that Europe do do enough
to stop the flooding of cheap steel
from China. That could be decisive
in the vote as well. — Tata Steel.
Here in Cardiff as you can see
voting is underway. They are
awaiting the others shortly. The
first vote is to be declared in the
far north of Wales. At about 2:00 a
M. There are 22 different towns
going on like this in Cardiff around
the country. We should get the
regional result from the whole of…
At about 5:00am.
In Sunderland, all of the ballot
boxes have arrived. The ballot
counting process is underway, a
remarkable operation. Sunderland
Private self on the first to declare
first, a record since 1992. Six
general elections in a row, and it
is hoping to do the same again. They
have had a team of 70 runners
clicking the boxes. They are dropped
off in all of the different polling
stations in the car park, delivered
down the stairs in a chain like
fashion into the main borehole in
Sunderland tennis Center where some
200 counters wait for the boxes
arrive to verify a number of both
corresponds with the expectation
Emma and then counting the votes. We
are expecting a result here around
five o’clock 12:00am. — o’clock AM,
it could be viewed first place to
declare its result. Sunderland is a
Labour heartland so you could expect
a strong vote for leave. It is
particularly Eurosceptic area, so
the predictions are that the leave
the vote will be higher here, but
just down the road in New Castle, we
are expecting it to be the other
way. Car manufacturing is big
business here, the son is a major
employer with 7000 people employed
by the car company. — Nissan.
Boss has
Boss has come
Boss has come out
Boss has come out to
Boss has come out to say
Boss has come out to say we
Boss has come out to say we should
Boss has come out to say we should
remain in the EU — Nissan’s boss
says we should stay in it. There is
huge extradition to the EU from
here. The East receives more from
funding from the EU than any other
region in England. But, for the leaf
vote, the issues are the same as in
the art nationwide. Integration, the
strain on the NHS, strains on
housing and on schools and, also,
the issue of sovereignty, of course.
So, it is expected here, in
Sunderland, that we will be seeing a
higher percentage for leave. Seeing
it here, the results, but give us a
picture of how it might be
nationwide but results around
5:00am. Speculation on turnout by
traditional Labour voters, not clear
whether they are people who are
motivated by anger with the
Government or, whether they have
come back for other reasons. The in
camp say that the labor voters have
turned up for remain because of
economic worries. They have gone
with the status quo and, also,
because they have been repelled by
the tactics of the campaign,
particularly the focus on
integration and, of course, this
election result comes, this election
comes a week after the murder of the
labor MP Jo Cox. A number of opinion
polls tonight and another one, to
add to the mix, conducted over the
past two days. They have come up
with a figure of 54% for remain and
46% for leave. That’s, of course,
compares with the Ugov a bowl which
came up with 52% for remain and 48%
for leave. We have leave UK’s on a
pole who said they questioned 10,000
people. They came out on the
reverse, 52% for leaving and 48% for
remaining. So far, the needs of the
market appeared to be that they
think that the remain can’t have
one. However, it is important to
stress, as you can see in our
culture as yet, no results from any
of the 382 constituencies. So, we
are, at this stage, still in the
hands of speculation and rumour.
Let’s go to John and Craig who is at
the leave UK party, John. Adam, I am
joined by the co-chair of labor
leave, Kate holy. We have had a
poll, Ipsos-Moripoll saying it
favours remain. Nigel Farage says
that lead will Ajit, who do you
believe? I’m not interested in any
of these, we have to wait for the
boats. I am confident we are close
to winning and we could still win.
It has been a fantastic campaign and
when you think not even a year ago,
no one ever thought that anyone
would get near to leaving the EU
and, too, from a time when I and
other people on the labor side were
considered almost out on a limb and
in a small minority to be in a
situation where we are not sure,
even at this stage, that we won’t
win. That is brilliant and shows
that whatever happens, the country
is very, very divided on this and
this issue will not go away. He said
the issue will not go away and
Farage tsetse will not go away. You
are in a minority in the Labour
Party, what will you do if it is a
close win for remain? I think what
will happen is, it will be
interesting to see how the labor
vote of our supporters in the
country goes. We will find, I think,
that labor voters will not have been
listening to labor leadership and
across the country you will find
thousands of thousands of labor
supporters amending the Labour view
because we haven’t known for a long
time that labor party view is out of
step with labor supporters. We might
find the people might not come back
to us after the way that labor
leadership has led to this campaign
with staying in. What do you think
of Mr Corbin’s position on this quiz
–? I have been a problem and we
have always been in the same lobby.
I have always said he is a leader
and has had to make decisions based
on keeping the party together. Also,
most of the things he has said about
the EU, I agree with. It is
dysfunctional and it is neoliberal.
The difference is he thinks it can
be reformed but I don’t. I think
this poll, tonight, whatever
happens, will show that the EU will
not be able to be reformed. What did
you think about the breaking point
poster revealed by Nigel Farage? I
have talked about that. There are a
lot of things on both sides… What
it is a? Let me answer the question!
I said I didn’t like the poster and
it wouldn’t be understood. More
importantly, what we have gotten
across this time is that it is not
resist to talk about immigration.
Labor supporters up and down the
country and deprived communities are
fed up being told there stupid,
ignorant and racist when all they
are saying is that the communities
have changed, there is a huge
pressure on hospitals, schools and
we have to get back control of our
borders. It is not about
immigration, but unfortunately
people wanted to portray anyone who
speaks out as being some kind of
racist. That has not helped for the
media to carry on with that idea. It
was Michael Gove who said it made
him shudder. Thank you very much,
let’s go back to Adam, I think. Yes,
indeed. We are getting early
reaction on the social media from
the leaders of the campaigns. Boris
Johnson has treated for the first
time since the polls have closed —
tweeted. We await the verdict,
thanks to everyone involved and
everyone who voted. David Cameron,
on Facebook, has been thinking
people who voted for people to stay
in the EU. — thinking. Thank you
for keeping us stronger, better off
and thank you to the thousands of
remain supporters around the UK.
Seeing him at his wife Samantha who
voted earlier today. Birmingham is a
classic is a devil of why size
matters, tonight. It is worth
keeping in your mind for beginning
this is not a parliamentary vote
where the constituencies are roughly
the same size. Birmingham is ten
times that. The potential electorate
for Birmingham is 7000 and the
second city in the UK after London.
It does not share London’s pilot
with remote — cosmopolitan
sensibility. It is one of the most
Eurosceptic region in UK. The boxes
are still arriving and the counters
are ready, verification is taking
place. The result here is about 4am.
Nationally, we are expecting a
result around breakfast time. Around
breakfast time passengers will be
arriving in France. They have
departed from Portsmouth and, with
them lucky thing, is, gesture, Tom.
— Tom Cheshire. Some people have
already heard, there is a player
tune tracker behind me. He is happy
on this very that started in 1971,
the year we joined the EU. I am
joined by the CEO, what is, for you,
these two poles… They may indicate
we will remain. Is that good news
for you? Sure. We much prefer a
brand that remains in the EU. We
have to be cautious and at the end
of the day would respect the Brexit.
We have a business and don’t do
politics. For sure, it would be
preferable to have the company. Does
it make a difference how much, the
margin of difference in those polls?
A thumping win it, does that effect
what you do? Know, it won’t, and it
doesn’t matter. What it would affect
is whether it was a Brexit or
remain. The margin is for the
politician to draw conclusions from.
Thank you, very much. We would just
be talking to you, but a lot of
people on this very, tonight. It has
been an interesting campaign but
whatever way you voted, we are in
the same boat, quit literally, in
this case. The counting is not
underway yet, but the verification
process, to tally the numbers and
ballot papers that they are
expecting with the actual number of
ballot papers in the building. Once
that is complete, that is relayed to
the regional counting centre which
is at Chelmsford. Once they are
satisfied that everything had gone
according to plan, then they go
ahead with the actual code to start.
Where in collecting, the home of
Ukips only MP. He would be grading
us is presents this evening. It is a
sleepy area with a very large,
elderly population. Lots of people
come here to retire. There are more
people who are retired over the age
of 65 men are working. Some areas of
deprivation in this area, but its
range is from that type of area to
quite affluent areas, quite a range
of people in this area. For the
general election, in 2015, the
turnout for the boat was around 66%,
not so high for the European country
elections in 2014 which was as low
as 36%. The expectation is that,
tonight, many more people will turn
out. We have to say that the birth
rate in our charge of the most —
number three in our chart of the
most Eurosceptic area is John Smith.
We expect to give you an idea of the
rundown on the voter turnout once
the verification process is
complete. Once that is complete we
will give you an idea of who has
turned out to vote, tonight. Thanks
very much, indeed. The polls have
closed just under an hour ago and
the important thing to say is that,
as yet, not a single vote has been
counted. The votes are being
verified as we are speaking at
counting stations across the
country. Overall, 380. — donated
to. We expect the main flow of
results to come around 2:00am or
3:00am but we expect early results
and in the next hour. So far, the
optimism is with the Remain camp.
Two opinion polls, one from
Ipsos-Moripoll and one from Ugov had
said that they believe Britain has
voted narrowly. The highest margin
is 54% to 46%, the Ipsos-Moripoll
poll to stay within the EU, it is in
the news came out the pound has
risen 1% to one 50. We have heard
from the Remain camp he is
cautiously optimistic. On the other
hand, Nigel Farage said he believes
the Remain campaign have
It is 11 o’clock. You are watching
decision time. The polls have been
closed for an hour. The counting of
millions of votes in is under way.
As yet there are no results. YouGov
found 52% support Remain and 40 a
percent back Leave. — 48. It has
been an extraordinary referendum
campaign according to Nigel Farage.
I spoke to the Leader of the House
of Commons Chris Grayling and Alan
Johnston and got their reactions to
the initial YouGov poll news. It is
clear that the turnout has been
high. The I think we will only know
the full picture as the night goes
on. Anyone certain of the result
only has two think back to last
year. Let’s wait till the post match
analysis until it is post match. It
is going to be tight. The turnout in
my consistency, it is higher than
usual. The postal votes certainly
were that people who actually
bothered to apply for a postal vote
are people that turn up. Fabian
Picardo from Gibraltar said the vote
will be massively in favour of
Remain. A rollercoaster of a night.
I would not be confident of
declaring at in Gibraltar, we will
be voting Remain. Our front was
opened by the European Union. Spain
wanted to sit to their European
Union and Mrs Thatcher said you are
not coming in until then. Our
gateway is the frontier with Spain
and it matters so much with us. 84
of the Conservative MPs who backed
Leave signed a letter to say David
Cameron should remain as Prime
Minister regardless of the result.
Michael Gove, Boris Johnson signed.
We go to Downing Street. Roughly
half the Conservative Party, 150
about, signed this letter. The Prime
Minister would be very happy with
having 84 of the Leave MPs backing
him so quickly after the polls
closed. It depends on the actual
numbers of the counted votes. I have
more details, or make more colour,
they are not exit polls. YouGov have
done a poll that 3000- there is no
doubt that the optimism is on the
side of the Remain campaign. The
pessimism from Nigel Farage is not
quite a concession but the
suggestion that they have not quite
got there. Someone twitters say
about bumping into Boris Johnson on
the tube and him suggesting they
lost it. They did not tell us what
the result is definitively going to
be. It is the ground war that
matters. What has caused this higher
than expected turnout we think we
are going to get around a general
election, and perhaps higher. It
could be Leave that have gone the
extra turnout. An Conservative
areas, there is no point voting so
that my be what happened as well. On
the other hand, I have heard wrong
Remain stations and they saw a bit
of swing. A status quo reversal from
the broad mass of voters. Perhaps,
more interestingly, amongst core
Labour Remain voters, there has been
a spike in turn out as a result of
some concern and anger at the
tactics of the Leave campaign. That
was channelled at Labour voters and
they turned out like it would eat a
general election. That could be the
winning margin for Remain. Thank you
very much indeed. Joining me is the
Northern Ireland Secretary and
supporter of Leave, Theresa
Villiers. Welcome. Do you have any
idea where this is going? My
instinct is that Remain have one.
Based on the poll but we visit
cannot tell. If Remain has won, why
do you think it might be? There will
be an analysis of that. I would put
it down to project fear succeeding
but it is difficult to speculate
about a result we have not heard
yet. You are also a signatory of
these latter about David Cameron, I
understand. What do you hope to
achieve by that? I think it is
crucial that whatever the result,
David Cameron stays on as Prime
Minister. He has a strong mandate to
do that stop we also need political
stability. Again, Remain or eMac,
the Prime Minister is simply the
best man for the job full of —
Leave. I am a partisan… I would
love to stay on in the Cabinet and I
think it is important that there is
a balance of people… Project fear,
for example, in — implies that you
did not have confidence in David
Cameron? The side of the debate was
led on personal conviction. David
Cameron knows I felt strongly about
this issue for many years. I never
had to contemplate resigning because
the Prime Minister allowed his
Cabinet to take a personal position
on this issue. The first ever
conversation I had with David
Cameron was why it was so important
to leave the Bremain People’s party.
For many years of concerned about
the direction of the European
project. If we vote Leave, the
country has a great future outside
the European Union stop conversely,
why would you want to keep David
Cameron as leader? Because he has a
mandate and his ‘The Best Man’ to
keep the country. The last thing we
need is political instability.
Obviously, I would not want the
demented Prime Minister… One of
the areas likely to declare early…
It looks like Northern Ireland is
heavily in favour of remaining, you
are strongly in favour of leaving,
does that make you the right person
in Northern Ireland? If Northern
Ireland votes Remain, it does not
change my ability to do my job. I
have delivered to crucial
cross-party decisions and more
stable politics. A lot of people did
not want border controls to come
between south and Northern Ireland
which would have been one of the
consequences. In my view, it would
not have been. We have had a Common
travel area for over 100 years, it
has survived the civil war and all
the trouble. Thank you. Welcome back
to the Remain party. A lot of
Conservative MPs arriving now. I was
hoping to speak to Nicky Morgan. She
has just wandered off. It is largely
here. It is. All the Cabinet in us
as coming down. Nicky Morgan, the
education Secretary, the environment
Minister. Chief aides have wanted
in. They had a dinner at number ten
with the PM. His closest team
helping him on the campaign and now
the PM is at number ten of watching
the results and they are pretty
confident. Eddie is is here. You
cannot miss him, he has addressed
on. We will chat to him as well. Hi,
you are live on Sky News. How are
you feeling? We have had a positive
day out campaigning with a good
response so I hopeful about the
response that it is too early to say
what the results will be. Quietly
confident? Positive, I would say.
What do you think it was that keep
it in your favour if you did win it?
The economy, the impact on trade.
When do you think we will know? We
have a few results coming through
the night. At 1230 we have a few
results coming in about we really
have to wait until all the results
are in. Apparently it is a record
turnout and that could take some
time to? The polling stations were
incredibly busy. I think it is a
good thing. People have
participated, taken part in the
decision. This government gave
people a referendum and we followed
through on our manifesto. Would you
say that you are quietly confident,
if I was to press you? There is a
smile on your face. Optimistic. We
have not had the full results. We
are hearing from death that they
were doing some private polling and
they are quietly optimistic. —
Beth. That is Graham, the Prime
Minister ‘s press secretary. Shall I
ask him? She will come back in just
a second. Apparently they had a
private supper. He isn’t too shy.
They are quietly confident. Again,
they are saying it is a very, very
close but we think that number ten
and Labour have said to me that the
turnout is high, perhaps 70% -60 6%
was in the general election and
lower than the Scottish referendum.
A high turnout is good for Remain.
It suggests reluctant Remainers have
been motivated to turn out. If that
Mr Lambley speaking to Mr Green? No,
that is Trevor Phillips. Chatting on
the Damian Green. Live on Sky News.
Hello. I mistook you… It happens
all the time. What can I do? There
is an atmosphere of success, is that
fair to say? We are optimistic about
the truth is, it is a very early and
nobody knows what is happening. We
have not seen a single reserve and
it would be premature to claim
victory. We know it is going to be
close and that is the most important
lesson to take out of this. We are
hoping the country has made what I
regard as the right choice for the
future. On Facebook, there was a
question which was by some political
career is finished tonight? I do not
necessarily think so. Just generally
it is difficult to kill politicians
careers… LAUGHTER. There was a lot
of bad shed on the carpet… It is a
hugely emotive subject. People
argued their case on both sides very
strongly. Speaking as a
conservative, it is important to
note we were elected one year ago.
We have four years to go and there
is a huge agenda. Many of my
colleagues are desperate to get on
to the domestic agenda on which of
the government was elected so from
next week we can start doing that
and, as is the way, the political
world will move on. Are you quietly
confident? People are pressing us to
ask you. I really do not know. I
will say on this point, look, there
have been unpleasant things said by
both sides but if one thing comes
out of this, this country is ready
for some robust and informed debate
and if the political class can learn
anything is let’s have the argument
is out there. Good to talk to you.
We have lost Nicky Morgan, everyone
Suchet to her. — chat to her. Here
in Gibraltar we are expecting a
result imminently, it has come
quickly, it is no surprise. 24,000
people were eligible to vote and
83.6% exercise their right to do so.
The tables have been cleared away
while the counting takes place.
There is then an hour of counting
and we are going to hear from the
Chief Minister of Gibraltar shortly.
I put it to him in an interview that
the polls look like we’re going to
stay and he I don’t trust them. The
people here are Gibraltar
desperately want to stay, they want
to remain in the EU and because of
sovereignty. Britain has a control
of Gibraltar for 300 years but it is
still contested by Spain. Only a few
days ago the acting Foreign Minister
of Spain said that it written leaves
the EU Spain said they could close
the border. Who knows what we will
decide to do? There was an issue
over some fishing rights a few years
ago, and Spain made it very
difficult for people trying to cross
the border and it is a border in
which 10,000 people crossed every
day. Even though 30,000 people live
here, it has become very
economically successful and part of
the reason for that is for tax
issues. It is a centre for offshore
gambling and other finance
industries. Stay with us. I am in
Manchester Town Hall, Manchester
Town Hall is important it is we are
going to get the official final
result here. We do not know when it
will be announced of whether the UK
has over to stay in out. It is
Victorian and neo- Gothic. No
counting happening here, the
counting is happening in all
different areas and this is where we
will get the regional results as
well. It is an important region, 11
regions across the UK and the
north-west is the biggest after
London and the south-east. There are
millions people voting here, and it
is an important region as well
because of the differences in what
its bands. It stretches from the
Lake District down to the urban
areas of Liverpool. Their areas of
social deprivation and affluent
areas. It is an area which has a
great many different elements, which
will play into the results. Salford
and Stockport are two of the early
declarations we are expecting. We
think those will give us an
indication of the national picture
and just down the road from us is
the biggest city here, over 300,000
people voted here. The counting is
well under way and we will bring you
that result around five AM. Inside
Manchester Town Hall where I am now,
the walls are lined with paintings
by Ford Lois Brown charting the
history of Manchester throughout the
ages. Some are very relevant. The
expulsion of the gains from
Manchester. We know that migration
has been a key issue and the panel
is to it is also very interesting.
That looks at the establishment of
the Flemish weavers in Manchester.
Touching on elements of migration
and workers rights, both key issues
in the referendum campaign. We have
many hours to go until the results
and the elect shall commission said
it we will hear it here first. They
said they want to wait and tall all
the results are in until they
amounted. They say will be
breakfasttime, whether it is early
breakfast or brunch. If it becomes
impossible for once I to acknowledge
they have won a lot, if once I get
over 50% then they would have to
have both the agreement of both
camps and then they may be able to
announce that a little earlier than
they would officially announce it.
That would really be something
extreme, they want to wait for every
result of or is announced. — before
it is announced. In Scotland over
the past few years we have seen so
many of the accepted political
troops turned on the head and it was
in this very whole over a year ago
that Glasgow, once a labour
stronghold, converted to SNP.
Scotland is pretty pro- European.
The polls vary but within three fits
and as high as three quarters of
Scots are expected to vote to
remain. Of the 32 counts that we are
going to have back tonight, the
question is not whether they will
vote in our but by what margin they
will choose to stay within the
European Union. That is not to say
that the SNP, the biggest
cheerleader, casting a vote this
morning, the SNP has its own
problems with the European Union.
Despite them changing the attack
back in 1975 they actually
campaigned against the EEC, at the
same time they have problems with
the common fisheries policy, they
certainly don’t like the Euro and
they don’t want closer fiscal in to
Gration, they also have problems
with supranational government, they
want minimum pricing for alcohol and
that is not going to happen because
of decision made in the European
Court of Justice. But speak to our
Scotland correspondence who is down
in Edinburgh at the second largest
count. James, give us a flavour of
your experience of this campaign and
whether or not it has been
particularly vigorous. It does not
appear that this referendum has set
the have a light on the same way as
the last one. I think you are right,
everyone I speak to, from
politicians down, people who deal
with counts and the infrastructure,
the general view almost universally
held is that it is a campaign that
is par Scotland by and that is for a
number of reasons. The referendum
two years ago, the independence
referendum, since then we have had
referendum fatigue with the Scottish
parliamentary elections and a bit of
fatigue. I think the fact that it
has been a UK campaign and therefore
naturally fairly London centric, it
has not that the heather alight.
Clearly Scots do have a stake and if
you look at the turnout, which is
around 80%, then clearly Scots have
voted in large numbers here in
Edinburgh, the postal vote turnout
figure is 88%. I spoke to one
observer hovering on the site here
and he reckons that they have three
to one on the postal vote which does
not mean that it will be the whole
vote, but they are clearly taking
encouragement from that. It is all
very interesting north of the border
because in about 12 hours time we’ll
have our cameras in front of Nicola
Sturgeon asking the indications for
a second independence referendum
which Owais goes — whichever way it
goes. The independence campaigners
are saying that yes of course, if
there is a Brexit against Scottish
wishes then that may hasten an
independence referendum, others say
that if it is remain, that gives
Nicola Sturgeon more time and less
pressure. She can do things
according to her own timetable and
not necessarily trying to hold an
independence referendum because of
the Brexit result. I am here in the
devolved nation of Wales, 2.2
million people on the register
expected to vote. We are expecting
those results are at the night and
you can see behind me in Cardiff,
those postal votes have already
arrived here and throughout the
night we are expecting those ballot
boxes to be rifled through and
result around half past four. Let us
talk about the picture here in
Wales, broadly speaking. This is a
country that they expected to get a
remain vote for and it has been
tighter in the polls than perhaps
they would have expected. This is a
country that benefits from being a
member of the European Union and the
NIAID the basis they gained more
than any other part of the United
Kingdom. Ł200 million is paid more
by the European ban is paid out. —
panniers. We are talking about 200
million from the States 50 and from
Japan, companies like Toyota and
there are smaller businesses that
support those and feed into them. A
lot of jobs depend on that European
market. We have also got the large
agricultural sector here in Wales
and 90% of sheep meat sold to
European union, but having said all
of that it is a labour heartland and
the Labour majority here, although
in favour of Europe are struggling.
There have been struggling to get
that message through, they have been
at the Mac apathetic and disengage
from politics. In fact immigration,
a key issue here, Tata Steel could
also be decided. We are waiting to
get those results at five AM. We
have just come out on the balcony
here at the remain party just to
have a little breather, it is
certainly livening up in there.
According to the latest polls we are
looking at they are saying it is
edging it for remain as Adam was
saying, we are looking at that fair
and one of the bookies and they are
seeing it is a 90% chance. That is
what is buzzing around this party.
It will be pausing around about two
or three minutes time as those
inside take a moment to reflect on
the motor of Jo Cox — murder. Who
was killed in her constituency last
Thursday afternoon. We chose to come
outside to be more respectful of
that. After that we are hoping to be
speaking to Nicky Morgan but also
Chris Bryant as well and he will
take the opportunity to talk to us.
We have been chatting to the Prime
Minister ‘s team and just pausing
for the moment silence. The premise
is quietly confident? Quietly
confident in the turnout and Labour
HQ. Remain think they have edged it
but they have not had any results
yet so I think we should just pause
and not be too definitive. The team
remain confident and we have been in
that you can see the atmosphere,
people are coming in, Nicky Morgan
looks relaxed and Liz truss, the
environment Secretary, her seat is
in Norfolk where it is hard to vote
leave contingent on that path. She
is confident that things will go
their way. One of the key things is
that the turnout has been hired,
huge. — has been high, huge.
They’re thinking it is coming in
about 76%. It is like 97. It is not
as high as the Scottish referendum.
Just heading down to the moment
silence, we are seeing a huge image
of Jo Cox. Good evening everybody.
Thank you.
APPLAUSE. A moment ‘s silence to
remember Jo Cox who was murdered on
Thursday. She had a couple of
children, an MP for Batley and Spen.
Her husband had a celebration in
Trafalgar Square. We are reflecting
on the moment ‘s silence. Yes, I
think it was a really important
thing to do. It is only a week since
her brutal murder. You know, she was
a passionate supporter of the Remain
campaign. I think it was absolutely
right to remember her. How did you
think it is going? We have not got
any results yet. Everybody keeps
saying that. I comfortable. The last
few days, people that were undecided
were making their mind up. Thinking
about the future, citing their
children and grandchildren. But we
have a long way to go before we get
the results. If it is Remain, the
Prime Minister will stay in post.
Can the party recover? Yes,
absolutely. This is an issue that
people thought passionately about on
either side. People have been
campaigning for decades on this
issue. In a hard fought fight, they
are not going to pull their punches.
We have a very important domestic
agenda that we were elected on.
Things in my area of education,
health, jobs, taxes, apprenticeship,
lots and lots that as a party and as
a government we need to lead on for
the people who voted.
To you. This is what we expect to be
the first declaration of the night.
Gibraltar is, of course, a
relatively small counting area. We
go to Samantha Simmonds. 24,000
people eligible to vote here in
Gibraltar. The only British overseas
territory able to take part in the
referendum. The turnout has an 84%
and we are not expecting any
surprises. The people of Gibraltar
want to stay. It is vital to the
economy. They are just at the tip of
mainland Spain. For 300 years it is
a territory that Spain still
contests. The acting Foreign
Minister said that if Britain votes
Out, we might seize control of the
territory. We are expecting that
result. Let’s listen in.
A bit of an delayed pause. The
speed… In the county here was
really speedy. They only started
counting half-an-hour ago.
Declaration of count totals. The
referendum on the United Kingdom
membership of the European Union. As
counting officer for the Gibraltar
counting area of the referendum
held, under European Union
referendum act 2015, and having been
authorised to do so by the regional
counting officer I hereby give
notice that I have certified the
following- the total number of
ballot papers was 20,172, the number
of votes cast in favour of remain a
member of European Union and gas
19,322. — was. Gibraltar votes to
APPLAUSE. . The number of votes cast
in favour of Leave European Union
was 123. The number of valid papers
rejected was as follows, no official
mark that zero. Both answers voted
for, eight. Writing or mark for
which a voter could be identified –
zero. For uncertainty 19. The total
number reject did was 27. Signed by
me, counting officer. Let’s cross
now to the Leave EU party. Nigel
Farage the leader of Ukip is there.
On private polls he’s saying that
Remain have one. Ladies and
gentlemen, good evening! I wanted to
say, a massive, massive thanks to
every single voter today who had the
guts to defy their party political
leaders, the establishment, the
elite and the big boys. Ordinary
folks have been subjected to so many
threats. I have to say that it has
been a long campaign. In my case, 25
years. Whatever happens tonight,
whoever wins this battle, one thing
I completely certain of is that we
are winning this war. Europe
scepticism was considered odd but
now just over half the country is
going to vote for us to leave the
European Union. I promise you this,
if the result is that we vote to
Leave, we will make sure that the
government carries out the will of
the people. If we had not quite made
it, we have a lot to look forward
to. The foreign affairs Minister
will launch a big global initiative
including defence. Next, talks begin
for quirky to join the European
Union. — techie. And then look
forward to the third Greek bailout.
— Turkey. An issue for which I have
been demonised for much of the last
ten years but an issue… And I
should never forget going to Bolton
and a lady greatly my hand crying
saying why it is not the Prime
Minister come and see what he has
done to our lives, what he has done
for our kids getting jobs and
houses. If we vote to Remain that is
an issue that will not go away. The
Eurosceptic genie is out of a bottle
and will not be put back. Most
remarkably, the biggest change is
not what has happened to the UK but
what has happened across the
European Union. In Denmark, in the
Netherlands and even in Italy, up to
all around 50% of the population
want to leave the European Union. I
hope and prey that my sense of this
tonight is wrong. I not conceding
but my sense is that the government
registration scheme, the extension,
is what might tip the balance. I
hope I am wrong, I hope I made a
fool of but whether I right or
wrong, if we stay part of this
union, it is doomed, it is finished
anyway. It fails tonight, it will
not be asked that knocks the bricks
of the wall first somebody else. We
were told the Remain campaign would
be 30 points behind the
establishment position, we are not.
We are running close. They have been
scared to stop they have behaved
pretty appallingly but tonight, the
result is not full recrimination but
for celebration that the landscape
of British politics has changed and
it has changed for ever. Win or
lose, we will win this war and we
will get our country back, our
independence back and our borders
Farage not conceding, saying he does
not know which way it is going to go
but suggesting that Remain made edgy
blaming the government registration
rules for that but also claiming
that we are winning the war as far
as the European Union is concerned.
He said it will fail. We can speak
to John Craig. Edging his bets a
bit, Mr Farrow? — Nigel Farage. He
has not conceded… At ten o’clock
he appeared to be saying, he told
Sky News, in fact, that he believed
the Remain campaign will edge it but
he is not conceding but he has
defended the campaign he has fought.
He said if they lose the battle,
they will win the world. Pretty
defiant Nigel Farage. I wonder if it
seems ten o’clock, since the private
poll, has got Leave slightly ahead.
That private poll contradicts some
of the polls you have quoting. He
will spend a little bit of time with
his supporters. He made a pretty
defiant speech but he has not
conceded defeat now. He has an —
un-conceded if you like. We will
soon get the first result from the
north-east. That is expected to be a
vote or Remain. We have seen a
fairly comprehensive result from
Gibraltar. Let’s have a look at that
result in detail. 95.9%. 96% voting
in Mac and 4% voting Out. Let’s go
to the leader of the Conservative,
and Belgium MEP. Thank you both for
joining us. Good evening. Good
evening. What did you make of the
massive 96%? I am very pleased
indeed. I not surprised because the
people of Gibraltar would be very
effect did they — affected by us
leaving. We do not know how things
are going to go. What do you make of
Britain holding this referendum? Was
it necessary in your view? As
politicians, we should never be
afraid of asking people what they
think. In principle I am rather in
favour of referenda. When it comes
to European matters, I would rather
ask all European people but I
respect what has taken place in the
UK. Whichever way it is false, this
is sending a signal to all European
governments, not just the one in the
UK big cause whichever way it goes,
we know the substantial and maybe a
majority part of British citizens
are actually worried at the way and
the course that the European Union
has been taking in the last decades.
Anyone who would say that Remain
wins, would be committing suicide
for the European project. — Leave
wins. We need to change the way we
go about our business but also in
the policies of we carry out. Yet, I
do believe that not having the Brits
at the table means a big loss. I do
not want Europe to just be dominated
by the German – French condom —
nomination. I want diversity in
Europe and the Anglo-Saxons are
bringing a lot to the table.
Nigel Farage was also claiming that
the EU would develop a defence
policy and also start negotiations
for Turkey to join, do think there
is any realistic respect of Turkey
joining in the next five years? No
chance. None at all. Nigel Farage is
very good at promoting Nigel Farage
but there is no prospect for Turkey
to join the EU. Why is that. What is
the point starting negotiations are
thought they had done a deal was
made quite simply, I think there are
several member states that would not
want Turkey to join and Woodley do
it. I don’t think they would get a
majority of members voting in
Parliament for it either. I do
believe that Angela Merkel is very
candid on this, she is yet to give
something to the Turkish Prime
Minister in order to get a deal but
I don’t believe that she is
considering the option. Angela
Merkel and it was a cosy were the
ones objecting to the very idea of
adding Turkey to the EU and I would
be surprised if that materialises
any time soon. Turkey is turning its
back to the European Union. For a
while we saw Turkey making progress
with rule of law and it depends on
the media and now with E D leader
turning his back on that and
establishing an autocratic regime,
this has nothing to do with European
values. If the conservative Prime
Minister has won what he wants i.e.,
an endorsement for Britain to remain
in the European Union, what do you
think he should say when he next
sees his European colleagues? I
apologise for being on the sidelines
for so long that I now want to play
in more central part in the EU? Of
Causey should not apologise, we had
every right to put in our manifesto
that we would hold the referendum
and I am pleased that we have done
so. I think the Prime Minister will
continue to represent written in the
European Council. I don’t think the
attitude will change much. —
Britain. We will always stick up for
Britain ‘s interest and we will our
corner hard. Thank you Ashley Fox
and Anthony Lambert, both members of
the European Parliament. We are
awaiting results in Orkney and
Newcastle, serving what the east of
the country does will be absolutely
fascinating as you move towards the
final tally. URA formally at — you
were formerly chief whip and you say
the family had voters turn your hair
white? Has been that bad? Family
photos recorded, it was the
Maastricht Treaty debate that had
the effect. It has been a bruising
experience for many Conservative
members of Parliament. Referenda
tend to do that because referenda
are polarising. Normally we are
struggling in politics to try and
get to the middle ground and reach a
consensus, you win elections for the
middle ground. Referenda do the
opposite and polarise people.
Conservative members of Parliament
aren’t sort of blushing wallflowers,
we are all quite robust and we are
capable of having a good argument
and a fierce argument on the
political issues without walling out
as individuals. Although a lot of
harsh things haven’t set and there
is an quite a lot of sound and fury,
when this is over there will be an
overwhelming desire by the
Conservative party to two on the
winners of the election and the
manifesto we were elected to deal
with. Making consumer pat,
capitalism work. Not fighting
yesterday’s battle. We knew one of
those who signed this letter saying
that the Prime Minister has a
mandate and should continue his role
whatever the result? I haven’t
signed any letters but clearly he
does have a mandate and he should
continue, there is a very strong
government agenda which the public
expect us to deliver. What the
referendum is over, the Prime
Minister promised them a referendum
and the public will decide. Once it
public has decided we will honour
that decision and on the myriad of
things that the government has to
do. Do think the latter is sincere,
to think that Boris Johnson would
rather not replaced by Minister? I
am certain that Boris Johnson wants
good government at the referendum is
over. He knows that the political
landscape is more than Europe. The
public will decide and then Boris
will get behind the Prime Minister
and ensure we deliver on that
agenda. You feeling confident? It
feels like remain but I think it is
going to be very close. People have
seen the way that the markets have
reacted to a possible Brexit result
and people who have got savings
pensions worry about the effect on
themselves and on their children and
families. In the last week or so, at
that point has really come home very
hard. Andrew Mitchell, supporting
Ian yourself. Here in Clacton, the
verification is continuing. We know
that the side for leave and remain,
we have that Agence here so they can
make sure the results are
legitimate. We would look into the
previous Labour MP to Clacton, he is
now a member of Essex county council
and he says it has no big surprise
that leave are doing well in this
area. Remain will do better than
leave expect, there are many silent
voices, he says, who will come out
and vote remain. For many years in
this area there has been a constant
drip of anti-EU sentiment and
opposition to immigration, it is
ironic considering that the
population in the area is only
between two and 3%. There is a
different story to tell, they are
confident of a 75% leave vote. Kevin
Watson, the Chancellor for the area,
in one ward he says that there are
4000 voters and only two voted to
remain. That is a claim that he has
made to us this evening and despite
the bad weather that they are
expecting a very high turnout and
two opposing claims are at the count
and suddenly the Remain Campaign is
certainly saying what we thought.
This is a Eurosceptic area and it is
free on a chart. No surprises here.
In Sunderland we have had the
turnout figure announced 64.9%.
207,000 who were eligible and is
most voted. That is up on the
turnout figure for the general
election last year and more than
double the turnout for the European
Parliament. We are waiting for a
result here and we are hoping to be
the first, there is a lot of
competition between the north-east
cities of Sunderland and Newcastle
and we are we to see — where
waiting and shall see to see if
Newcastle wins. It may not be very
long before they declare. Sources
are suggesting a strong result for
leave here in Sunderland but just
how strong remains to be seen. And
how that affects the national
picture. If the gap is a small
victory for leave then it could
imply a remain vote for the country
as a whole. If there is a large gap
of said ten points then that would
be good news for leave. We are
waiting for that result here in
Sunderland and hopefully it will
become willing and in ex- owl. —
next half-an-hour. The first
mainland results are coming in and I
have to say that the massive 95%
voting for remain is going to be
quite a target for the remaining
areas to be. As we are hearing from
Andrew Mitchell, the markets have
reacted to the early suggestions
that remain is indeed going to
prevail and our economic senator has
more on that. Throughout this
referendum campaign the strength of
the pound has been seen as this
DELWORD for how the UK is doing and
just how concerned people are about
what will happen in this referendum.
The weaker pound, the more concern.
But lots of things influence the
currency. We have seen the pound go
up and down on these immediate polls
that we have just after the polls
closed are suggesting that there
would be a potential lead for the
Remain Campaign if you have a look
at the far right let us see pound
going to be strongest level against
the dollar since December, about $1
50 and it has come down a bit in the
last few minutes. It is going to be
a bumpy night for currencies. Many
traders, here in London and around
the world are looking at currency
markets and staying up to see how it
evolves because when those results
come in it is going to make a big
difference to what people think
about the prospects of the UK and
whether it is going to stay in the
EU and what its back on to do the
economy. There will put their money
where their mouths are and so we are
going to be keeping a close eye on
the currency but for the time being
that is the strongest it has been
since December. Thank you add. —
add. We don’t have enough results to
be sure of what the result is going
to be this evening, we are getting
some information about turnout,
people are talking about record
turnout, what are you hearing,
Michael? On the basis of provisional
turnout is that we have received
from a number of authorities, we
have turnout of 70 271%. That is
excellent news because that also
tells us that people didn’t turn out
to vote in last year ‘s general
election have clearly been
galvanised into action to what the
high turnout means in terms of the
various camps is open to question,
you can make a case filed away
saying it is good or bad for legal
remain, — weevil remain. It is
great news summary people have
engaged and that sort of endorses
whatever the outcome is it endorses
a that’s only people became
involved. You think turnout may be
around 70%? Whistle Merthyr Tydfil
at 70%. Not an area where someone
expects large turnout so it does
seem to be working class voters and
labour voters who haven’t been seen
so often at the ballot who are
voting, without the right? Is
impossible to save from the basis of
the overall data how individuals
have behaved. It certainly does
suggest that because people knew
that the referendum. Let us go to
Newcastle, we are hearing a result.
I hear by give notice that I have
certified the following. The total
numbers of papers counted… In
favour of Remain 65,404. The total
number of votes cast in favour of
the Leave was 63,590 — 63,598. That
is a close run thing. Compared to
Sunderland which will be very upset
that they have been beaten by
Newcastle. We were expecting
Newcastle to shade it in the madman.
Sunderland the rumours are is it is
going Leave way. It highlights the
fact that nationally, this is going
to be close and it could go down to
the wire. An estimated turnout from
Gibraltar and then at 69% in
Newcastle upon Tyne. 65,404 votes
for remaining. 63,598… At the
bottom of your screen, we are still
waiting for the result from
Sunderland and we will get that in
just a moment. First blood,
Gibraltar and now Newcastle going to
be Remain campaign but results going
with expectation. Not clear, as yet,
which side is breaking from the
pack. The turnout in Newcastle,
67.6% and the margin of victory that
which is really a very important
thing – was 1800 and we can also see
the Gibraltar result so that is
95.9% voting for Remain. 4% voting
for Out but far fewer votes cast in
Gibraltar. Much smaller than
Newcastle, nonetheless, that is the
edge at the early stage. 380
counting areas to go. You are
watching decision time – in or out.
The poll is — polls have now been
closed for just over two hours.
So far, Gibraltar has voted
resoundingly to remain in, 95.9%
voting to Remain. 20,000 172… We
can go live to the Orkney
declaration. Under the European
Union referendum, having been
authorised to do so…
I am sorry, we have lost sound
connections to Orkney. This is the
picture in Sunderland. We are
expecting a declaration of their as
accounting of millions of votes
could then use across the United
Kingdom. — continues. We have just
had our first couple of results.
Your thoughts? My thoughts are that,
so far, the polls have said it is
going to be a close finish and they
are not entirely wrong. The
Newcastle result are more or less in
line with our declaration that it is
going to be close. 1800 votes,
wasn’t it? That combined with
Gibraltar, it is a small 20,000 vote
lead at this point fall Remain. We
are seeing the result coming in from
Orkney. They are voted Remain. We
are expecting a across Scotland that
most of the counting areas will
declare for Remain. The crucial
question will be both the turnout,
which we know is lower, it seems,
than in the Scottish Independence
information… We are seeing the
result in all key. 7189 votes
Remain. — results in Orkney. A
relatively small population. Any
thoughts on that? In line with our
expectation that the Scottish island
will vote to remain. The regional
differences are so important, as we
made clear at the outset. The
expectation is that Scotland and
London will be strongly Remain and
the eastern region, and Yorkshire
and others will be quite strongly to
Leave. The crucial question, at the
end of the day, is the level of
turnout in each region and whether
the various campaigns helped to
deliver the vote in their strongest
regions. A couple of turnout. We
will be back to you soon, Michael.
We go across to London. We go to the
Leave party. We have come the other
side, north of the Thames. Aaron
Banks is here. Talk to us about how
you are feeling? I feeling quite
positive. The Newcastle result is
very close. And that is a
metropolitan city. I think Nigel
came up to me and said that is an
interesting result. I thought he had
conceded? You know Nigel! Here’s why
we are here. Pure and simple. He is
not going to hindrance asked at all.
You are upset at the time that you
are not chosen… The Vote Leave
campaign is that the Tory party
campaign. What about that Post a?
Which Post a? You know which Post!
— poster. I think Nigel is right
for apologising for the timing but
right to enjoy the actual context.
The EU is not working and it is
clear. We saw the movement in Rome.
It is not politics as usual. What do
you say to those who say Vote
Leave… They used quite a lot of
the same slogan was make they are
pretty much identical. We never got
them in the same room together. It
probably never is going to happen.
Do you think in your heart of hearts
that you are going to win? I am an
honest person and right now… I
still have not got a clue. Plenty of
time. Once we start to see some of
the bigger results coming through…
Tell us a bit more about your poll?
10,000 people randomly selected. It
is very hard but we have done our
best. 52% – 40%. I think Nigel was
way too early. But he is
understandably nervous, it is 25
years of his life. Whether you like
it or not, he he hasn’t changed
politics like no-one else. Can we go
in and have a chat with Nigel? No, I
do not think so. Why not? I think he
is having a rest. You almost killed
the man in the corridor. Give him a
break. Easy going to come out again?
Don’t stalk him, Kate. Back to you.
We seem picture is from Manchester.
Presumably the man in picture
running for mayor. It is very early
days indeed. Only three results in.
The Liberal Democrats MP is backing
In. Which way is this heading,
George? It looks like it is going to
be close. When we start getting the
result from the Midlands, and a lot
hinges on what happens in London. We
know it is likely to be on the
Remainer side. People tweeting
saying do not let London and
Scotland keep us in the European
Union. Am I going to make a
prediction? Paying on, I made it
once and I will not make it again.
— hang on. I would agree that it is
to early to call yet. Two
interesting facts. Nigel Farage,
typical of the man, he calls the
referendum and will not now accept
its result. I beg everybody, this
exercise has been very divisive and
difficult but even if one side is
beaten by one, except it and move
on. Nigel will not and given what we
know about him, it is not
surprising. They want David Cameron
to stay on to making his prisoner if
they do win. You are not in the same
team as Nigel Farage although you
are on the same side you agree with
him to quote the wall goes on? I
have always been clear this was a
once in a generation opportunity.
That we would be better off to leave
but I am reconciled myself that if
we lose we have to accept and carry
on with the business of government.
I think if the verdict of the people
is that they want us to carry on,
obviously that is what we will and
must do because if people have cast
a decision we have to respect that
and we have to get back on with the
business of government. We have
things to get on with and we need to
pull together. You and I know that
British people cast this decision
back in 1975 to be in the European
Union and yet it was not enough for
some of your colleagues in the
Conservative Party who forced David
Cameron to hold this referendum. In
fairness, the European Union has
changed enormously. People thought
we were joining a common market.
There have been more power is
accumulated and legal authority
going to the European courts. It was
right to have a referendum and that
is why it was in our manifesto as it
was in the Liberal Democrats are
until they took it out. I believe
that will make the right decision.
There is no indication like a 2- to
one vote. If the Prime Minister gets
a Monday, no matter how large or
small he will go ahead. Trying to
build those relationships that can
make Europe work for us. We can work
with the Germans, create much more
liberal market and we can work with
the gains to make it more
democratic. — Denmark. If that is
the outcome, the Prime Minister has
two courses of action, one is to
remain a prisoner of the divided
Conservative Party and the other is
to celebrate the fact that we have
lifted this weight of our shoulder
and we can play a constructive role
in Europe making alliances that can
help us in Europe… And play a more
positive role. If the Prime Minister
is given a mandate…
The European Union Referendum Act of
2015. Having been authorised to do
so by the regional accounting
officer, I hereby give notice that I
have certified the following. The
total number of ballot papers
counted was 130 4400. The total
number of casting vote of remain was
50 1000, the total number of votes
cast in favour of leave was 80 2000.
That was 82,000 voting out. A
substantial win for the league
campaign. — leave campaign. It was
anticipated that they would win but
what matters is the margin of
victory. The total number of votes
cast on both side, for leave was
82,000 394. The number of ballot
papers rejected was as follows.
82,000 votes, that was the margin
for coming out. Letters get a quick
reaction. I want to finish what I
was saying because is really
important. The Prime Minister can
choose to be a Lesnar of the
Conservative Party or go good as
mean and really go with it. Larry go
to Sarah Hueston. A bigger than
expected margin of victory for out.
It certainly was and you can see the
celebrations behind me from the
leave campaign. 51,000 votes for
remain at 82,004 for remain. 61% out
vote. It was expected to go that
way, it will is the Eurosceptic
area, the 29th most Eurosceptic area
in the UK but that is a particularly
strong showing for leave and I think
that will be unsettling the remain
camp, Piccadilly after that
Newcastle result that we had that
showed that in but only just. Huge
celebrations by live campaigners in
Sunderland with that result
declared, a significant victory for
leave. As we saw while you were
speaking in the totalising of the
vote so far, that result has put out
in the lead with 1%. Letters have
look at the second result from
Scotland. Clackmannan Shire, they
have voted 14,000 four in an 10,000
for out. That was a margin of 3900
votes. As you see from and the strap
at the bottom of the screen, with
the results that have happened so
far, Outers narrowly in the lead.
I’ve thought that one of the
features of snye is the white
blue-collar workers voting in larger
numbers. That is a feature for out
but how does that play out in the
long run? That is the first
indication that it will be a feature
coming through. We can look at the
UK result now so far, you concede on
your screen.
It’s good that big dividend on that
big area of Sunderland and now
Outers in the lead. Some economic
reaction that economic and
philistine. In short, the pound has
absolutely gone to the floor. I have
rarely seen as bigger fall in is
doubling as we have seen. Over the
course of the last few the pound has
fallen from $1 50 down to 144. Just
look at the sheer drop. This kind of
thing almost never happens. You have
to go back to areas that two times
like Black Wednesday to see such
instant falls, even during the
financial crisis you didn’t see
collapses like this. Many pulses
were expecting remain to be in the
lead and now we are seeing the
results from Newcastle and
Sunderland which look very positive
will be leave camp, the trade is out
there are selling the pound at a
rate I have rarely seen.
rate I have rarely seen. Welcome
there are selling the pound at a
rate I have rarely seen. Welcome
rate I have rarely seen. Welcome
back to
back to the county in Glasgow we
have had a number of results now, we
have had the results were in a
resolver in. We are starting to get
some indications that perhaps
turnout in certain areas are not
quite as high and low to speak now
to the Scottish Labour leader. What
are you hearing at the moment the
early education and make indications
are showing less of a turnout in the
Eurosceptic areas. The turnout is
quite strong, it is somewhat between
de Scottish Parliament elections and
perhaps as close to be Scottish
Parliament results of 62 75%. But it
looks like a remain vote for
Glasgow. Why is the campaign being
fought here. It is a step into the
unknown, jobs could have a bit of a
scandal. You have in Scotland five
party leaders who are all voting the
same way today. There are all making
a positive case. Their big focus on
the economy you can see why there is
a strong amount of support for the
remain for. What will happen here?
Could be that it 4 million votes
that could be cast up here in
Scotland could really prove pivotal
particularly if we see the north and
north-east? Scotland’s part of UK
and we remained in the UK to be able
to influence it. Man of the moment,
Nigel Farage with this. How was it?
Sunderland was fantastic and
Newcastle was good too. I have spent
most of the last month in the big
Labour cities and towns in the
Midlands and we talk about
Euroscepticism as if it is some sort
of Tory division. As if the Labour
Party now supports European Union
but Jeremy Corbyn and his mates in
Islington might support. But not
around here. You are running away
with it at one stage, but what
changed? We were running away with
it is not right a month ago we miles
behind. The reason we started to
really build momentum, it was the
day that Boris Johnson and Michael
to go started talking about an
Australian style points system, the
day that was being talked about but
the narrative of the country, that
is what change. That is what put is
in contention. My view, right now I
think that remained might just nick
it. There is an much in it and the
government might manage to register
2 million people, I will tell you
what is for certain. Whoever wins
this battle tonight, and just say we
lost marginally, we are going to win
this war because the biggest change
of the selection is not just the
euroscepticism is now a mainstream
view. It is now a mainstream view in
Denmark, Sweden and Italy. This
referendum has transformed the
politics of Europe and the genie is
out of the bottle and it will never
get put back. What will fight it
look like for you. How long do you
have? I pray we win and Britain
becomes independent again and the
European Union is finished. If we
lose then all that will happen is
that the process will be delayed a
bit. You would not step down? It is
not a question of accepting it. UDC
was set down if he won, did you not
say that? A lot of my job would be
done but if we win we have to make
sure that the British government
carries out the wishes of the
people. Twice the Irish voted
against the European Union and were
forced to vote again. Rafa sure that
the British government action
doesn’t. Either way will I will stay
on — you’ll stay on? What about
these pesky posters? Everything has
done has lost votes, everything done
I have been condemned for. What
upsets the sensibilities of people
here in their middle class is not
how ordinary people feel.
Immigration is the biggest issue. I
regret that it. I regret the death
of Jo Cox and the timing of it but I
do not regret the truth. You guys
covered those pictures live on Sky
News, it wasn’t a mockup it was in a
dodgy .co. She is broken and the
European Union is dying. — Michigan
agreement. I hope we are not the
final brick. What you say to those
people who say you never see Boris
Johnson and night of right in the
same room, you have a lot of the
same catchphrases. Ukip has not
forced this referendum and change
the agenda of the nation with gentle
and which. Mr Farage if you want to
go. He is heading back into his room
and Jon Craig is here, what you make
of that? Defiant. He has changed
since ten o’clock when he sounded
like he was conceding. He thought
that remain on aged and now I am
sure that his private view is that
he hopes is wrong that you cave will
remain. He made a very defiant
speech a little earlier on. He said
some of the things that he was
saying in the interview but he was
also saying that he was complaining
it wasn’t so close we always
suspected that the others would
blame that it was very close and he
said all evening. One final thing,
over their when that Sunderland
reserve dot result came in — when
that Sunderland result came in the
cheers went up for enormous. Luxury
the atmosphere and have a quick look
around the party, we are at the
remain party short time ago and
there is a lot of champagne here as
well. The mood was not to be happy
until that Sunderland vote came in
and that is very much changed
atmosphere we will keep continue to
monitor events. Letters are
SENTENCECASE quickly, how are you
That is what we want to see. How are
you feeling? Optimistic. After
Sunderland, it is all to play for.
Nothing is over until the end. It
depends on one vote only.
Gibraltar… That was going to be a
basket case. I can understand why
they would vote to stay in. They are
an unusual case but I looking
forward to a possible good result.
We leave you with an image of the
party. It was downhearted but it has
been buoyed by what happened in
Sunderland but a long way to go.
Back to you.
As we start to contemplate the race
may be close, we have seen resolve
this — results in Scotland. The
popular perception that Scotland is
pro- European and tonight will be
the test of that. In certain areas
of the turnout may not be as high.
We go to the declaration in the city
of London. Percentage turnout 73
point %. The figures will be
displayed on the screen. — 73.8%.
This is just the turnout numbers.
Let’s go back to Scotland, briefly.
Thanks, Adam. We bring in the MP for
Adam Brown. — Edinburgh. You are
there this evening, what are the
indications of turnout and, of
course, results? 80% possibly, not
as high as the Scottish Independence
referendum. It reflects the fact
that we have run a positive campaign
north of the border. Indications are
that it will be our Remain vote.
Voters in my constituency is the
majority will vote Remain. Of
course, it is not the result in
Scotland were the result across the
UK. The position taken by the SNP is
that if UK votes to Leave, there are
grounds for a second Independent
referendum, if that happens, when
will it take place? If Scotland
voted to Remain, it would be
conditions for change. During the
Scottish Independent referendum we
were told that if the result tonight
votes to remain in the European
Union but the rest do not, then,
clearly, it is a broken promise and
grounds for a second referendum but
I am not going to speculate about
when that would be. The first
minister has campaigned, Alex
Salmond has campaigned across the UK
for a Remain vote. The position of
the Scottish National party is that
we would like the whole UK to remain
but we realised it is on a knife
edge down south. We hope it will be
a Remain vote. We talk to Professor
Michael Thrasher. Two key results in
mainland England. First of all this
on in Sunderland. This is the only
prize so far tonight for the league
campaign but it was the big one.
61%. 82,000 votes. A margin of 30%
which cancels out the four winds in
much smaller population areas
including in Newcastle. — wins.
Newcastle, very close indeed.
Michael, explained the significance
of of Sunderland and the close
result in Newcastle? Each of the
camps, both Leave and Remain, have
estimates. As we all are. In terms
of how each area would vote. The
crucial point about those two
results you have just stated,
Sunderland and Newcastle, is that it
was much higher than we expected for
Leave and in terms of Newcastle,
much lower for Remain. We saw with
the graphic, the nervousness of the
money market. It will generate
nervousness everywhere. At this
point, Leave are buoyant and the
Remain are quite depressed and
disillusioned with life. I tell you,
this is going to go on all night.
The result will fluctuate when
different regions of the country
come in with the scores. We do not
actually know how they will vote.
What we do know is there is a very,
very high turnout. Than the general
election and that there is
absolutely no doubt that people have
been brought into the referendum who
rarely engage in politics. It has
covered parts of the country that he
has not done before — eat. It is
early days in terms of what the
final outcome will be. Let’s look at
developments in the Conservative
Party as we continue on these
uncertain evening, not knowing which
side is necessarily going to emerge
at the Vic. We go to Robert seems.
— Victor. He has been using a
letter to save David Cameron. What
is the purpose of your letter? Those
of us who support… I sorry. I am
sorry, that was a verification of
the turnout. I apologise for
interrupting you. Tell me what you
are hoping to achieve with this
letter? Those of us in Vote Leave
who have been campaigning to leave
the EU, it was felt by many of us
that we would have a collect if
effort to restate that David Cameron
is the person best place to continue
governing the country. He had a
mandate after the election. He has
carried out the manifesto pledge and
we believe he is the best person to
deal with whatever the British
people decide tonight. What about
the bitter personal attacks on his
integrity of some of his colleagues
have made during these campaigned? I
think, actually, the relationship is
pretty good. They were one or two
hot tempered exchanges at that
happens when you have a campaign
running for several weeks. My
expectation is the Conservative
Party will unite behind David
Cameron whatever the result. We will
be moving as one next week and deal
with whatever the electorate gives
us as a result tonight. What do you
think is going to be the result
tonight? I think it could be very
close. All the evidence that I was
getting from colleagues, both from
Leave and Remain, it will be close.
We will know in the early hours of
the morning. The bookies are still
saying and make but I not altogether
sure that will carry the day. Even
looking in various counts, it is
looking very promising for those of
us who want to access the EU.
Another Conservative MP, John
Redwood is with me now. You have not
signed the letter? No, I was not
asked to but I cannot see the point.
We need to know where the people
are. And how the Prime Minister
proposes to implement the public
will. You think there should be a
question mark over whether he
continues? Now is not the time for
the question. Leave may win, which
is obviously what I want. And then
we would have to hear from our
leader. He would need, either way, a
new government which binds together
the party. There have been big
divisions. There is a lot of talent
on the Leave side. If he is defeated
on a question he clearly regards as
vital to the Press parity of the
nation, should he continue as a
national leader? That is a matter
for him. Let’s find out what the
result is. Only he can decide
whether he feels comfortable
implementing the public decision. We
were here with the Sunderland result
and the drop of the pound? Entirely
expected. For some unknown reason
the markets have decided that Remain
had won it and they pushed it up. It
has fallen back so far to a level
still quite a bit above the low of
February before this referendum
debate got going. The town has gone
up and down a lot. There are limits
to how far it can go down. If it
goes down too far, people will buy
it. If it goes down a bit, it will
be more competitive. It is not all
bad news. Project fear was that
international markets would lose
confidence if they thought your side
was going to win? It is nonsense.
They said interest rates would go up
but they have been falling, even
when people thought Leave might win.
They said there was going to be a
recession because of Brexit and
clearly there will not be. There is
no way that Germany is going to stop
trading in the UK overnight. We
heard recently from representatives
from the German industry who said
they do not want new Harris. We will
be negotiating with 27 nations. —
tariffs. We start from the position
where we have a perfectly reasonable
trading arrangement. They would have
to put to us possible changes but I
do not believe the French are going
to say please, we want tariffs
against our cheese and wine. They
are not going to put barriers in the
way of their exports. Where are we
going to be at breakfast time? I
hoping my side has won because I
want to live in an Independent
country. We would be a much happier
nation and better Europeans. One of
the extraordinary thing in the
campaign, none of the Remain said
have liked the EU, none of them said
they wanted more of the EU. They
were trying to be Eurosceptics
because they knew the public had had
it up to here with EU laws and taxes
are taking our money away. They said
we have got a special deal and
Britain will not be dragged in. I
and my colleagues will be there as
guardians if Remain win. Are you
vetoing the Turkish accession to the
EU. Are we going to have that treaty
Houses currently narrowly in the
lead. — out. Here in Wales it is
suffice to say that there are
jitters all night we have been
hearing from the out came that they
are quietly confident but in the
last half-an-hour we have heard from
the remain came that they are now
worried about the results here in
Wales, we any result in yet one
person is to me that Wales might be
biting the hand that feeds. Wales
actually gained more from the EU
than it pays in. 205 million Piya
powered into Wales. That is given
specifically to deprived areas here
in Wales but whether that message
has trickled down to those voters
remains to be seen. There are ardent
in campaigners who say it is far
tighter than she expected and we are
are speaking to her later on this
morning. The issues that we think
the voters may have ended up making
their vote on boil down to two
things, crucially immigration and we
saw at this early elections that
Ukip gained their first seats in the
Welsh assembly and the second issue,
Tata Steel. There is a perception
from workers and the unions that has
been peddled that the European Union
did not do enough to challenge the
influx of cheap Chinese steel into
the market. Before Sunderland
declared it looked late Wales or
video nation to vote out but it is
far too early to make that call.
Wales should traditionally
everything is to play for and we may
see that going to a tonight. The
first result is coming from the
north of the country here in Cardiff
those results are being counted
frantically behind me.
Flow of results are coming in
slightly slower than had been
anticipated, let us go to Ed Conway
to analyse information from those
early results. You may see if you
are looking here, we were talking
about the pounded how sharply fell.
You can see a little representation
of how the pound fell during the
counting period. Now that this is
since her cot. Since the European
Referendum Act I have been
authorised to do so. This the Isle
of Scilly. The total number of
ballot papers counted was 1424. The
total number of votes cast in favour
of leave was 621. The number of
ballots rejected word doormat were
as followed. There were no ballots
rejected. They could very much.
Orkney is at one end of the British
aisles and both are small numbers of
votes involved there. We have also
had the first result from Northern
Ireland. This is an uncertified
result because they are counting
everything sensually. That was on
boil in Northern Ireland — foil,
Ireland. You are seeing that Ian
have once again taken the lead. That
was faced with a big margin. Let us
go back to Ed Conway. Let us talk
through just how the counting
process is going to work. Turnout,
those numbers you’ll see at the
bottom of the screen, that will be
all-important. The votes are going
to be counted up in 382 voting
areas. We have heard the result from
Gibraltar. These colours behind me
ask I dated a research and YouGov in
Northern Ireland but Howard
Eurosceptical these areas are.
Oranges more pro-EU and that darker
the more pro-. Blue is more
Eurosceptic colleagues and see a
pattern where Scotland is very your
file — Europhile and the heartlands
are very Eurosceptic. This is not
like a general election, we have got
46 million people eligible to vote
on every single one count. Turnout
will be crucial. It is believed that
turnout could be close to 70% and
that reduces our number of voters to
just over 32 million. Different
regions might behave differently.
Letters bring up Scotland, they have
got nearly 4 million voters and
Scotland, think back to the
referendum on on nearly 85%. Now
look at London, London is split into
30 different areas but actually pull
out and the total voting population
there is 5.4 million. Turnout for
the most recent London elections was
46%. If that was replicated here,
the influence of London gets
smaller. It really comes down to who
is turning up to vote. Why does this
matter? It matters because there are
the same number of voters in those
two small areas as 139 of the
smallest voting areas throughout
England so you can see just why
these areas matter and just why sky
data suggest that these areas are
more Eurosceptical. Let’s get the
views of the Labour MP and supporter
of in an Ed Conway that was looking
at the worries that some people have
that at the end of the night we are
going to have a very divided
country, richer and more
metropolitan parts of the country,
Scotland and London and maybe the
south-east are heavily backing
European Union but the rest of the
country is feeling that it is losing
out. We are a divided country, that
is the big conclusion you can draw.
I think it can have different party
affiliations in general elections,
it is more complex but this has made
it very start and why have we got
these divisions? We have got these
because we are going through a
tremendous amount of change.
Technology is disrupting everything,
it is disrupting jobs you cannot do
for life any more. We are facing
more international competition than
ever before from emerging market
economies, we have not had this
before. Some areas and groups are
flourishing in this context. The
question of us as a country in my
view is, in the context of all this
change and security, to take the
course of looking at who you blame
these problems and blaming groups
and things, whether it is the EU or
some other thing or two actually
work out how we come together to
resolve these issues. My view is
whatever happens, that the Mac…
Having been authorised to do so by
the regional counting officer, I
hereby give notice that I certified
the following. The total number of
ballot papers counted was one on
three 000. The total number of votes
for remained was 51,000. The number
of votes cast in leave was 60 1000.
Swindon vote out by a 10,000 margin.
Swindon very much regarded as Middle
England. A swing area of the
country. Let us go the reaction of
Chuka Ukuma to that. I think we’ll
get lots of results like this. Some
also more for leave and it is
impossible to draw conclusions. I
have always said the beginning of
this campaign, right back in
February that I thought it was going
to be very close. And it could go
either way. My hope is and my hunch
is that if you were to force me to
call it I would say that remain just
gets it but it could easily go the
other way. What about Swindon?
Relatively prosperous and yet is
going on the other side of the
divide. Absolutely, and this plays
different ways because there are
different demographics, there are
class issues and whether there are
immigrant backgrounds. Whether you
are older or younger all-male
female. It is impossible to draw
conclusions right now but what I do
now is that the EU and leaving the
European Union and it has been
presented by the Vote Leave campaign
as the solution to all our problems.
People say that if you Vote Leave
you have no migration issues at all.
That is complete on, we have more
people coming from outside the EU
than in. They’re coming from a
scheme that Vote Leave would solve
all our problems. We have got half
the country turning out and they are
going against the advice of the
Conservative leadership and the
leadership of other parties. The
Conservative party, has a neutral
position in this referendum. Some
government ministers have pro-
position but there are budget
government ministers who want us to
leave. I think that is an important
discretion to make distension. The
Labour Party wholeheartedly wants to
stay. With the nation divided what
is the Labour Party do. I think we
have to find a way of dealing with
the immigration issue in a Labour
way. Part of our problem going into
the general election and I think we
did not have a bad position, was
that the solution was not just any
guys answer, it was a cultural
thing. People are feeling the whole
is changing around them and that is
the solution. Part of that is how do
you become a more integrated
society. What about what we do to
make sure that people are part of
that committee. Just keep people out
and there will be less competition,
what you say to that? I don’t think
that will solve the problems that we
have. I don’t think that there are a
shortage of school places and our
tenacious challenges because of
immigrants. This had a Conservative
government underfunding those
things. Why have there been changes
in the nearest — industries? Is at
all because of industries? Now the
jobs are going to other countries.
Why are we not looking new
industries. That is a positive way.
Thank you very much indeed, while we
were speaking rocks more also voted
out and we are seeing a seesaw
between the two sides and briefly in
was back in the lead and there is
Broxbourne voting out. That has put
the out campaign back in the lead.
It is talk to Professor Michael
Brasher. Both very much Middle
England sort of places. What you
make of the? In terms of the dead to
make demographics and past voting
behaviour, they are right on our
estimates for weather should have
been in terms of the percentage
lead. Unlike the Newcastle or
Sunderland scenario which changed
the game somewhat. These two are
very much in line. What they each
tell in the same way which we all
know. Is that the outcome is going
to be extremely close. It is just
going to be a matter of a few
percentage points. Based on the
handful of result that we have had
so far we are confirming that the
outcome is going to be very close
indeed between remain and me.
Although one might be edging ahead
of the other I suspect that when we
start getting results in from
different parts of the country there
we may see the balance sheet. But
certainly both profits on an Swindon
were right — rocks more —
Broxbourne. Were exactly where we
saw them. Meanwhile results to come
in and it is too close to call.
You are watching Decision Time. It
is one o’clock in the morning and
the polls have been close for three
hours. A handful of counting areas
have declared, what we do know is
that there has been a high turnout,
higher than the last year’s general
election. Declarations are coming in
more quickly but the first of the
night was from Travolta.
They voted resoundingly to remain
IN – 95.9% of the population
there voting to remain.
4.1% voting out.
Sunder land has delivered a
resounding no vote. The total number
of votes cast in favour of remain
was, 50 1,000, the total number of
votes cast in favour of leave was,
82,000. 61.3% of the electorate
voted to leave the EU. The G8 .7%
voted to remain. In the last half
hour, the leader of UKIP has said he
thinks the remain side may have
narrowly won.
I think remain may get it, the
government managed to register 3
million people. I tell you what is
for certain, whoever wins this
battle tonight, and just say we
lost, marginally, we will win this
In another development this evening,
84 of the Conservative MPs
who backed leave are among those
who have signed a letter saying that
David Cameron should remain as PM
regardless of the result.
It includes Boris Johnson
and Michael Gove and every cabinet
minister who supported leave.
The man who organised the letter,
Robertson is said whichever way the
result goes, Cameron deserves the
support of his MPs. Those of us who
vote lead, who have been complaining
to leave the EU have been saying we
support David Cameron. It was felt
by many of us we should have a
collective effort at the end of the
campaign to restate that. Whatever
the result and night, a narrow
remain when all leave when Kim
Cameron is best placed to continue
governing the country. He got a
mandate 12 months ago, as a
politician he has carried out the
manifesto pledge, we believe he is
the best person to deal with what
ever the British people decide
I’m joined by the Shadow Chancellor
and ‘in’ campaigner –
John McDonnell.
What do you make of the results?
Reggie close, either way. You are
not sure that remain will win?
Through the campaign we thought it
was pretty close. I am hoping remain
will win but it may be one or two
percentage points either way. The
greatest rock — volatility that he
is with Labour voters? A lot of
conservative voters have gone for
out. There is a solid base and the
Tory party for that have gone
against their own Prime Minister.
With the Labour vote, there is a one
third split, maybe less than that,
we see. If we look at Sunder land,
more than a third? There will be
different votes in different areas,
it will be idiosyncratic or
different areas. The vote was close
to what predictions were. That will
depend on turnout in some areas, as
well. Do you think the leadership,
the way you approached this campaign
can be blamed? The way Jeremy has
handled it has been very pragmatic,
he is aware the British public are
Eurosceptical to a certain extent
but remains is the best thing. You
will see that as the night goes on,
if it is a narrow victory for remain
it will demonstrate Jeremy is in
June with the country overall. What
do you make of the later saying
saved Dave, whatever the result, do
you think, if the Prime Minister
does prevail tonight, and leave is
defeated, he should remain as Prime
Minister? That is a matter for the
Tory party. I was talking to a few
Tory MPs over the last few weeks,
those are ones in favour of leaving,
their view was if they win they will
leave David Cameron there to hold
the party together. They will make
sure they seize key positions in
regards to the negotiations of the
Brixit. The strategy from the right
of the Tory party is the same. Lee
Cameron will make sure, now they are
demonstrating they have sizeable
support in the conservative party
they have a hostage. If they lose,
will David Cameron stay on? I think
he will be trapped like a hostage to
the right of this party, no matter
what happens. Back at the remain
party, very subdued as you can
imagine when the Swindon result came
in, they were not expecting that,
that was a bellwether seat. Mr
Miliband is with me. A different
atmosphere to what there was
earlier? Everybody was very
confident. More subdued now? It will
be a long night, we do not know how
this will end. You will get
variations across the country and
these results, let us see where we
are at the end of the night. It will
be very close, either way? Whatever
the result is, even if it is a
remain result, it is incredibly
important if it is a remain result
it will be a result. In the EU but
not the status in the country. It is
important that David Cameron learns
lessons about that and what people
are saying. In my constituency
people are worried about the NHS,
chances for their sons and
daughters, those problems are not
caused in my view by staying in the
EU I think would be worse if we let,
but those underlying issues are a
important context was some of the
results we are seeing an Labour year
areas. Kettering has just voted out,
not going your way at the moment?
Lots of the results are coming, from
London and Scotland we will see
where we are at the end of the
night. I’ve learnt it is not wise to
predict these things from long and
bitter experience. As I say, what
ever I say, the country will have to
come together even if it is a remain
victory. Either way, it is a nation
divided, how do we yield that? It is
a nation divided, especially if it
is a remain win, to show he
understands what people say on the
leave side of the argument. Labour
faces the same responsibility. Many
the set of immigration, issues about
the nature of the lives of people,
that they feel politics is not
listening to them and making a
difference to them, those issues do
not — do need to be addressed.
Jeremy called and did not help, he
took it till the end to get
involved? I think he is a fine
leader. Where he was, which he had
doubts about some parts of the EU
project, but commitment to remain,
that is where a lot of people are.
He was a reluctant remain, a lot of
people are reluctant remain is, that
made him a more persuasive advocate
because he was not starry eyed about
Europe and what they can deliver.
You have to put your shoulder to the
wheel when you need to, Labour
remain set come on, Jeremy where are
you, he was nowhere to be seen for
weeks and weeks? To be fair, he was
going around the country, he was
with me in Doncaster. He was not in
Leeds because he knew leave would
dominate there. I was with him in
Doncaster a few weeks before two day
making a passionate speech for
staying in, you saw the Labour
family coming together in the last
days of this campaign. I think
Labour did find its voice in this
campaign. You had a Tory party civil
war and that got a lot of the
attention, I think that was correct
to have a separate Labour campaign,
we will see what happens tomorrow.
What you think Nigel Raj? I don’t
like the way he ran his campaign, he
did not like his poster, I thought
it was hateful. People will make
their own judgements about that. I
think it goes well beyond
personality, it is a referendum
about the future of the country, and
this is a big referendum, it is way
beyond individual personalities.
There are deep forces that were
driving some of the voting we are
seeing. Final call, end where we
started, the mood is different to
what it was earlier? I was not here
earlier. They were quietly confident
earlier. On a scale of one to ten?
We will see. I’m not in the
prediction business, we will see
where we are in the morning. You
will see a lot of regional
variation. I am not calling it at
the moment, we will see what is
happening at early hours. I have the
school run-in the morning. A very
different atmosphere to what it was
earlier? It is, but when you look at
the actual projections in those
seats, Sunderland and Newcastle,
they are not off the charts. They
are where they were meant to be.
People here saying to me, some land
was 1% out to where they thought
would be. — Sunder land. The
projections we have got from Sky
News data, the point is, they were
hoping, the remain people here were
hoping to have a bigger gap between
the two sites, and it is really
close. Somebody said to me over
there when Sunder land came and it
is going to be a long night. What
they want to see now in this room, a
big, solid win, big majorities for
the remain strongholds. The seats we
have so far were expected to be
stronger for votes leave. It depends
a lot on what will London do, how
big will the remain majorities be in
London, where we know the remain
vote is the highest. And we’ll be
rain put people off? He was going
through these numbers, this is the
sky data, it gives us… It shows
every seat and what it tells us is
where we predict remain and leave. I
can look at this and it can tell me,
who is doing better, who is doing as
they should be doing, and who is
failing, so far, nothing really
worrying, it is really close. We
will bring in will, very quickly
then we will throw to Cardiff. You
are live on Sky, not going quite as
planned? It is always going to be
close, the results this evening have
not been very different from the
projections lots of people are
looking at. The results were roughly
there with the margin of the era.
Back to you. You are joining me and
Cardiff, the Welsh capital this
evening, still no official results,
and officially, a lot of nerves from
the in and out campaigns. It was
supposed to be a little bit more
easy, for remain. They are feeling
anxious. Here is one campaigner, Lee
Edwards from the Nationalist party.
This should have been a home run for
remain, why is it such a worry? It
is looking close, those areas which
have suffered the most as a result
of listeria are the areas which are
voting in largest numbers to leave
the EU. And I can see that people
are fed up, they don’t want to
continue with the status quo, it is
a wake-up call for all of us as
politicians, to make sure those
people are listened to, the agendas
are delivered upon. If that is
correct, is it a fail for yourself
and your colleagues in remain for
getting your message through to
those people, the most deprived
members of Welsh Society receive
more per capita than any other
segment of the British Isles? That
is the conundrum, those in areas are
in receipt of the greatest money are
the ones that are looking as though
they are voting and greatest numbers
to leave. Obviously, something isn’t
right, I would put that down to,
people are more likely in those
areas to have felt wages being
depressed, more likely to have lost
public services and benefits is,
they have really hit the wall, and
they can take no more, this is one
opportunity to hit the establishment
where it hurts. Except it will hurt
them more if we do face an expert in
Wales? They will be worse off with
Mac that is the risk, we don’t know
how the final result is going to
fall but that is the risk. If we do
vote to leave the EU we could be
looking for a rocky ride ahead,
which is all the more reason for us
to strengthen the National
institutions in Wales, we need more
powers for the assembly so that we
can ran equip ourselves and protect
people from the worst of what could
be around the corner. We will talk
about what it could mean for
devolution at the moment. We will
now talk about Tata steel. There is
concerned the EU has not done enough
to stave off the influx of cheap
Chinese deal? — steel.
Some of the week players in Wales,
including the unions look out for
Remain. The steel industry and the
steelworkers do need support, and
were to ensure there is a future for
that industry. While waiting for the
results to come in, when we look
across the Celtic nations and cast
it to Scotland, Wales is the only
Celtic nation to vote for Brexit.
What will it look like in five years
time? In truth, no-one knows. Were
only able to make educated guesses.
Has been so much dithering now, now
is the opportunity for us to take
this also that we can deliver for
those people who have voted in this
referendum tonight. . Plaid Cymru,
thank you so much for your time
It is still early stages but I think
it is fair to say that Remain are
less optimistic than they were at
the start of the night, and Leave
are more optimistic. We had that the
full from the Chancellor of the
Exchequer. Is definitely close and
that is what we thought from the
beginning. There is high turnout.
Turnout in areas like Scotland and
London, which we expect to remain,
is not representative of other areas
in the country. Yes, I think it is
on a knife edge, it is very, very
close. Has that you YouGov poll
showed. Without seeing these big
turnout is in a lot of areas, they
are successful areas of the country
economically. Is, we haven’t seen
yet any big London results.
Particularly the turnout issue, as
you say there are other issues, and
Scotland, the turnout will be very
important there. Is it still around
there? It is still there or
thereabouts. It could be very
interesting. You could have
Scotland, Wales and London all vote
one way and yet the rest of England
but another way. What about what is
going on in the markets, that is
where you work now. Vessel is to be
a lot of movement. Yeah, it is
extremely volatile. I don’t think
that is a surprise to anyone. There
have been will is that a lever is
something that financial markets and
investors are extremely concerned
about. — and vote. That was the
sale of George Osborne campaign
under way stop — sales George
Osborne campaign.
. I think that economists throughout
this campaign saying this is a very
serious issue, this is unfolding
right in front of our eyes. Joe, you
had in breaking down according to
certain demographics devote. Were
found in many ways that the nation
is divided when you look at lots of
characteristics. Education for
example. 71% of university educated
Britons have voted to stay in.
When you look at age, it is a very
similar story. 75% of 18 to 24
-year-olds are favouring in, that is
an enormous number. Nearly two
thirds of the 50 to 64-year-old age
group are voting out. It shows that
the country is in so many ways
divided, and how any government or
political party addresses this is
going to be an interesting question.
Let’s have a look at what they have
said about the leave campaign.
That is the problem for politicians,
isn’t it? It has been a very
hardfought campaign. It is not
surprising, both of the campaigns
have been negative. We have heard
several leading Labour spokespersons
saying that the leading
Conservatives still couldn’t find it
in themselves to say anything nice
about the European Union. Is that
true? I’m not sure that is the case.
We had David Cameron saying we are
in outward looking country, we work
with our neighbours. We also saw
David Cameron talking about the
economic consequences. If we do vote
for a Brexit, we are going to be
dealing with some very real
consequences that people watching
this, not just businesses and
financial markets, that is going to
affect people people’s real lives.
Now two more results coming in.
South Tyneside votes in. Lagan
Valley, strong area for the Scottish
Unionist party has voted out.
Scotland overall is very much in
favour of remaining in the EU. Let’s
go to our reporter in Downing Street
to has been talking to the
politicians, what they said to you,
Robert? We have been talking to a
source within the Labour Party in
the last few minutes. Here
suggesting that a large number of
Labour voters, they believe, are out
to kick the conservative vote out of
touch. This is how they are
explaining this cleaving that we
seem to be seen of two thirds of
Labour voters towards remained, and
the other third towards Leave. There
is a lot of discussion within the
Labour Party as to whether their
leader Jeremy Corbyn was right to
focus on freedom of movement, that
was one of his main planks of his
argument for people to support
remaining in the EU. The
Conservative party will be taking a
long hard look at themselves after
this, but I think the Labour Party
will also be questioning whether
their leadership did enough to back
Remain. We have also seen this
letter, this letter from many
backers of the conservative Party
who have said that they want David
Cameron to carry on. You have to
look at some of those MPs were not
on the list, Iain Duncan Smith
apparently said this evening that he
was not ask to sign it. — asked to
sign it.
was not ask to sign it. — asked to
sign it. That
sign it. That is obviously something
we may be finding out in the next
few hours. Roberts, thank you very
In Belfast, we are still expecting
an official result to be a couple of
hours away. However, we have got a
couple of additional results. Two
out of the 18 constituencies have
declared their results. One has gone
to Leave, at a more comfortable win
for Leave in foil.
— Foyle.
Rather akin to a party leader in
Westminster. Welcome to you. What do
you think about this? I think we
have had a lot more turnout then
some people expected. The Vote
Remain has been quite high, and the
vote for Remain is much lower here
in Belfast. In east Belfast, a
unionist constituency, there is a
66% vote to remain. We are very
content so far with the weight
Northern Ireland is going. A
convincing win. That is a broader
constituency, and that land border
that Northern Ireland has with
another country, some people say if
we vote for Brexit, is there going
to be checkpoints along the border.
Has that been a difficulty for you
during the campaign? It has been an
issue. We do not want to see a high
border, as it is called. Our
neighbours to the south and Northern
Ireland, we want to get on and
trade. Joining the EU broke decades
of parity between the two
currencies. The Leave campaign has
said we want to have more control
over borders, and yet have no
control over this border. That was
the case in Northern Ireland up
until 1923. Neither Northern Ireland
zero the Irish Republic, nor the UK
would want to see that imposed on
would want to see that imposed on
Ireland. The Republic
Ireland. The Republic of Ireland is
not in the Schengen area, so that
people coming into the South have to
go into through the same checks as
they would if they were coming into
the United Kingdom. With the money
that goes to Brussels every year
could be better spent on the health
service in our own country. What
about the money that comes back to
Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland
has done pretty well hasn’t it? In
terms of agricultural subsidies. A
lot of campaigners for Remain today
have suggested they may not get that
money should they vote to leave.
There is no guarantee that if we
stay in the EU after today, that
that sort of subsidy will continue.
In fact, we know that that is going
to decrease in the next five years.
There is no guarantee that we can
stay in, but the reality is that the
Northern Ireland executive has been
fighting for money for the Northern
Ireland region, out of Europe. The
right years. — the point is we
would be $10 billion better off out
of the European Union. It is a
windfall Northern Ireland and for
the rest of the UK. If you are right
and Northern Ireland does vote for
remaining, but the rest of the
country chooses Brexit. Do you
expect Sinn Fein to call for a
referendum? Would it be right to do
so, if he will wider United Kingdom
goes against Northern Ireland?
such referendum, there has to be
clear evidence
clear evidence people want to leave
the UK, even nationalists in
Northern Ireland, minty on to stay
within the United Kingdom, the
turnout is quite significant for
this EU referendum. If you are only
getting a 48% turnout in west
Belfast, chose the Republican
National list humanity does not
check the big concerns of Sinn Fein.
They would be on week round if they
were calling for a referendum on
leaving the UK. In terms of
Scotland, another referendum on
Scottish independence would result
in an overwhelming vote for Scotland
to stay and, because the basic issue
the Scottish Nationalists haven’t
answered the big questions about
currency and where they would make
up the black hole in the economy
with the massive plunging oil
prices. A few updates from around
Scotland this evening. We have been
hearing from Dundee which has made
its declaration. The vote is 60% in
favour of remaining. The word from
on the ground in Edinburgh are, even
higher in favour of remain. All of
that will please those who have been
looking at turnout is a crop
Scotland and suggesting they are not
where they want to be. Compared into
a general election and you may say
they compare favourably compared to
the last referendum in Scotland,
they do not compare favourably at
all. In the past few minutes, we
have the turnout for Glasgow city.
The split in terms of the count of
the five parliamentary seats, we
only get one bigger overall, the
turnout was 56.2%. Glasgow, at the
time of the independence referendum
had a lover turnout than the
national average which was 85%, the
turnout was 75%. However there will
be those, given this is an SMP city,
the does — the local council does
remain under Labour, of the seven
MPs returning from Glasgow MP to
vestments are they are all SNP. That
was a bit of a turnout for the books
when we got the result in 2015. The
SNP have been leading this campaign,
they are normally pro- European. You
did down into the data when it comes
to the SNP will, you will discover
while they have independence in
Europe as their slogan, one they
adopted in 1998, as many as a third
of SNP voters, let’s not forget in a
general election that was 50% of
those who voted in Scotland, a third
of voters have voted out of the EU.
It is a complicated picture in
Scotland, we are still expecting and
all of those areas in which there is
a count happening tonight, it will
come out as a vote to remain, but
the margins aren’t there, the
turnout is in there, given that
elsewhere in the UK things are
getting tight, that will not be
pleasing those in the remain camp. A
significant point, we will have a
look at the national picture. The UK
wide picture, the state of play, we
can see it on the board. There is
the finishing line, you can see
yellow, that is in, is just short on
49.2%. Alt is on 50.8%. They are
narrowly ahead. The latest result
declared, the Western Isles voted
in, but it voted out the last time
there was a referendum, 41 years
ago. We will get the views of the
Work and Pensions Secretary. What do
you make of it so far? It is very
early days, we have only had a
handful of results, they have gone
largely to what we had expected. We
just know it will go down to the
wire. In those areas, East Ayrshire
voting in there, 43.9% to 51.7, it
does seem that if anyone is out
before expectations it is the league
campaign. I do not think we have
enough data to draw conclusions like
that. I have spent most of the day
outside London, I came to London
this evening not feeling as bullish
as some of my London based
colleagues and sporting all day very
strong positive response to the
remain message. There is something
quite different going on in
different parts of the country but
we don’t have enough results to draw
firm conclusions, but this is going
to be very tight. Does this point to
a difference a more serious division
between London and Scotland and rest
of the UK? This is a feature of this
campaign, it is shining a spotlight
on some of those divisions within
the UK, geographical, generation,
older people tending to vote one
way, younger people voting another,
and social class, this is some ring
we can’t shy away from talking
about, what some of the results will
show tonight, those areas strongly
white working class, a strong vote
for out, this is something as a
government we need to respond to, a
lot of what we are doing is a
government to rebalance the economy
and reform the economy and increase
the amount of apprenticeships is
speaks to that constituency, but one
of the features of this referendum
are the social divisions. As all
parties we need to show we are
responding to that. This is the
podium at Wandsworth, the London
area, where your side, the inside
needs to get a big margin if it is
going to stand a chance of winning?
They need to do well all over the
UK, there is an expectation London
will deliver a big vote for in, what
we don’t want is relying on London
to get the in boat across the line.
We want a strong vote for staying in
across the country. What happens to
the government if the Prime Minister
having campaigned so hard for remain
is defeated? The government carries
on. We will elect did a year ago,
the Prime Minister had his mandate
with a majority fall — to form a
government and deliver five years of
government for the country. How can
he do it when he has been defeated
on in issue of national importance?
This campaign is delivering on one
of our key manifesto promises. We
kept our promise, we held the
referendum, he will still be the
Prime Minister and he will hold a
mandate to carry on and lead the
country, that is to take the country
out of the EU he has a mandate to do
that. There is no appetite for a
change of leadership. We will get
the latest on these results from it,
my. This is an update on where we
are. You may head Seana screen a few
were watching a moment ago, this
shows you the winning line
calculated on turnout at the moment.
It is what either side would have to
get to if they have to win this
referendum. 16 one quarter million
votes. What you can tell from this,
we are still very early in the
process. Only half a million, still
the numbers are stacking up, on each
side. Look how tight the results are
at the moment. I will show you that
in another way. It is very narrow in
deed. 49.8% for remain, 50 point 2%
for leave. It is easily in the day,
we can get a sense of what those
results and percentages for each
different local area are
transmitting into, and the national
picture. Let me show you two
examples, some land we had that
result through, a big win for the
leave camp, 61.3%. — Sunderland.
Turnout was 68.8%. Have a look at
West Dunbartonshire in Scotland, a
similar kind of% for remain. 62% for
remain, the key thing to note is,
this is a lot smaller, even though
the percentage of people for remain
was similar to in Sunderland, a
margin of only 10,000 year, a margin
of 30,000 when it came to
Sunderland. In this, every single
vote counts. All this is is a race,
he raced towards the winning line I
showed you a moment ago. Right now
it is being narrowly won by the
leave camp. –A race. Now we will
speak to him and supporter and are
now supported? — and out supporter.
I’m not sure Nigel Raj conceded, he
was pointing out what the polling
was saying. We have known all along
that will be very close. The results
tonight are showing it is extremely
close but we are doing very well in
the areas where you would expect us
not to do quite as well. The
Newcastle is, you think about it,
for such a Europhile area to be only
49.3% for us to get 49.2% there is
phenomenal. We have only got 15 out
of 382 areas declaring. There is the
nationwide picture now, with those
latest results coming in from the
steer share and the western isles,
it is very close indeed. Where do
you think it is heating, Caroline?
It is very difficult to call. It
will be very close, looking at some
of the results and the biggest city
areas, one of my concerns at the end
of the night, which ever way the
vote goes and I support us to stay
in and I hope it is the outcome, we
will end up with a divided Britain,
between the big cities and the more
provincial parts of Britain, that is
in labour areas but also Tory areas.
That is concerning, they will have
to be some healing down and
understanding of that, whatever the
result is after tonight. Where do
you think your constituency,
Doncaster is going? I think it will
be going to leave, we saw that in
some elections for previous years,
the 2009 EU elections, that is about
understanding, there are two views
on this campaign, the remain
campaign I sport, the EU is good for
Britain and we are better off than,
the leave side which is about
immigration and how bad that is for
everyone. That has struck a chord.
In those parts of Britain outside of
the cities, for quite a long time,
the working class vote, white
working class vote have felt left
behind. That is going to UKIP? I
trebled my majority in the general
election, but I never take any of my
votes for granted. What I found on
the ground, Labour supporters said
they are voting lead but we will
vote for you because we are unable.
We will have to think about this
after tonight, how we reconnect to
those voters and offer them
something that speaks to their
concerns. Nigel also said whatever
the results he believes UKIP will
win the war. Does that involve
replacing Labour and a lot of the
heartlands? Labour has a major
problem. I am for Wales, Wales for
many years has been read, the
valleys feel neglected. There is a
disconnect, when you consider 100%
of the elected politicians in Wales
the Labour politicians were for
remain, that did not represent the
membership of the Labour Party in
Wales, nor did it represent the
people who vote for Labour in Wales.
The problem with UKIP is it is a one
trick pony. You do not try to get to
grip with some deep-seated problems
facing rural communities that feel
left behind. When you have a
referendum, it is yes or no on a
question. That is what we are
facing. Whatever happens tonight, we
have to deal with that. For myself
as a Labour politician, I have
spoken for a long time that some
Labour areas outside the cities that
we need to think about how we make
sure they feel included. I wish some
of the discussions we have had over
the next six weeks about what Europe
does for us and communities like
that, we talked about that in a more
positive way. Do you think that is a
mistake, we know Jeremy Corbyn said
seven and a half out of ten as far
as Europe was concerned? Is that one
of the reasons why, leave are doing
so well, people have not been given
a positive reason to back the
European Union? I’m talking for
decades we have not talked as a
country, when Europe is doing good
things for us on prices, jobs and
investment, we haven’t been as
positive as we should be. Sometimes,
when things were going well, the UK
government would take all the claim,
when it was going badly it was easy
to blame the EU. If we remain, and I
hope we do, it is an opportunity to
think about how better we understand
the concerns of people in those
areas of Britain that have voted to
leave and understand we have to talk
to about…. We are going to
Basildon for a declaration.
Had been authorised to make this
announcement by the regional
counting officer, I hear they
announce that I had certified the
following. The total number of
ballot papers counted was 98,062.
The total number of votes cast in
favour of Remain was 20,748. Votes
cast in favour of Leave was 67,251.
So by a margin of more than 2051,
Basildon has voted out.
Is a rather bigger result for Leave
in Basildon than we had perhaps
anticipated. — it is. It to suggest
a general pattern of voting in
favour of Leave. Michael, thank you
very much indeed.
No results yet here in the West
Midlands. This is widely believed to
be a Eurosceptic area. High turnout,
80.6%. Tamworth, 74% turnout.
Coventry, 65.5%, that sounds a bit
low but their general election was
only 59%. Will have had lots about
the demographics of this. It had
been believed of course that a high
turnout would support the Remain
camp. Older people are more likely
to support Outer. A highly turnout
by younger people, who are more
likely to support remaining in the
EU. We have seen that people who are
feeling disenfranchised have also
come out. People have come out
because they feel strongly about
this, whether it is the immigration
issues or the economic issue. We’re
also looking up for the possibility
that England could vote to leave the
European Union, and the rest of the
UK could vote to stay in. That is
England of course, minus London.
Lots still to come.
It is a similar picture here in
Manchester. Raster waiting for the
whole country’s declaration, we do
not know what time that is going to
be. We are still waiting for the
Leave results from this region. This
is a really interesting area to
watch. It is in working class white
areas like Newcastle upon Tyne and
Sunderland that we have seen a
strong Outer vote. Reagan, one of
the three places expected to declare
early, had a 10% higher turnout than
they had for the general election.
It is a big area and a very
populous. It is the biggest area in
all of the UK that is going to be
voting in the 11 different regions.
It is incredibly important area. The
results are expected in the next
half-an-hour to an hour. Without
expecting one to Vote Leave, and one
to Vote Remain. Will have got Paul
Nuttall from UKIP, he has said that
as far as he is concerned it is
still a little bit like a toss of
the coin. He is saying that it is
still far too early to call. He is
not that pessimistic. They have had
good results in the north-west,
Labour heartland.
Well, but there is a prediction of a
90% chance of remaining in. Is that
looking likely. It is obviously
going to be much closer than many
people thought. I am still quietly
confident. I think that the Leave
arguments were made very strongly,
about the sort of Britain that we
want to be. It is definitely going
to be close, and with London and the
big cities to come in. If they come
in as strongly as some of the Leave
areas have come in. There was a much
higher turnout than we have seen in
a general election. That is
absolutely true, so it is hard to
call it at this point. You do have
to wait, and there will have to see
how Remain areas have voted. Would
Leave areas, they have got their
vote out for sure, but I think we
will get our vote out too. Are there
many seats that if you think we lose
that, we are in a lot of trouble?
Obviously, there are quite a lot of
areas that are Leave. There is not a
single one that will give an
indication. This is the
extraordinary thing about a
referendum, you can have a strong
loss in some areas and still win. It
is nice to not get thumped anyway,
but you can still win. — it is not
nice. That is or is going to be the
sticking point for your group. Yes,
we have to be able to say here is
what it will do to the British
economy. There was not any panacea
about leaving the European Union.
What we do need is clearly a fund
which is directed at areas where
there are more migrants, to ensure
that they do not suffer from the
stress on social services. We have
got to ensure that the benefits of
the single market are equally
distributed across the country. Or
we could leave the European Union,
and that would be the problem
solved. Well, it is a problem solved
in only one way. That will not help.
That is a very binary way of looking
at it. Much better to stay in the
European Union, ensuring we
safeguard the economy, and at the
same time than those areas to make
sure that social services don’t
actually suffer. Thank you. Thank
you so much. What make of what you
have heard? Nerve racking for the
parties here.
This is the declaration in the city
of London, a very small area in
terms of the voting numbers. The
number of votes cast in favour of
Remain was 3300. The number of
ballot papers rejected was as
A strong IN vote for the City of
London, but a relatively small
number of voters there. This is the
deputy leader of the Labour Party. A
big turnout in Birmingham and other
areas, howdy think it is turning out
their? Some of the results will be
very tight. Of course, the Midlands
is a battleground where people have
concerns about an insecure labour
market. There have been strong
results for parties like UKIP in
some other areas, this is going to
be a knife edge result. The results
in the 100 59, 259, are still to
come. Are you hoping that in a close
result be in campaign may just win
it? People have come out to vote in
larger numbers in strongly Leave
areas, but I think that is probably
counterbalanced by strong numbers in
Remain areas. I think that is the
lesson of this referendum. The
country seems more demented at
divided at the end of the process
than it was at the start of the
process. — more divided. We have to
sort of bring the nation back
together again, whatever the result.
Perhaps we hadn’t anticipated that
there would be so many people in the
Labour Party, labour supporters,
willing to vote against their
leadership. I should just say that I
think it should still be the case
that a larger portion of Labour
voters will give the direction that
Jeremy Corbyn gave them and vote to
remain. I think the Tory party will
still have a very great difficulty
handling the result. To look at
their own ventures, 40% of their own
MPs campaigned against David
Cameron’s position.
That’s got to Wales. This is the
Swansea declaration.
The total number of ballot papers
counted was 120,462. The total
number of votes cast in favour of
Remain was 58,000 307. Swansea has
voted narrowly for Out. The total
number of votes cast in favour of
Leave was 61,946. So very narrowly,
but Swansea has voted for Out.
Another thousand or so votes are on
to the Outer lead, which we have
seen this evening. I have no idea
what that says Adam, I am sorry. I
did not anticipate that from
Swansea, but it just goes to show
that this is very, very close. Well,
the Labour heartland is our very…
It seems very clear to me that sort
of traditional Labour voters are
saying look well, we are not happy,
and we hear that. It is not looking
very comfortable. It was an each way
bet for me. How do we learned the
lessons of this, whatever the
result? We tried to put an argument
to say the country is more
prosperous because we are in the
European Union. If you are not
sharing in that prosperity, it does
not mean anything to you.
You are watching Decision Time in or
out on Sky News. Counting is now
under way in the historic EU
referendum. The polls closed four
hours ago. It is an incredibly close
race. We know the turnout has been
very high. Higher, indeed, we think
and last year’s general election.
Here is how things stand currently.
With 31 out of 382 seats, counting
areas declared. Out is on 53.2%.
That is over 1 million votes. In is
on the 6.8%. That is 943,000 votes.
We are seeing turnout averaging just
under 70%. What we have seen is out
winning in its strongholds by a
larger margin than in is winning in
its strongholds. It is fair to say
that we have not heard from London
to any great extent, as yet.
Here in Manchester Town Hall this is
where the national result will come
through. It will be quite a while
before we get the final declaration
on the stage behind me. We will be
collating the votes for the whole
north-west region as well. That will
be an interesting result. Some of
the areas we have seen declare,
namely the north-east, a lot of
white, working class areas in the
north-west. Will they go the same
way that many areas in need
north-west have gone, which was
largely voting our? I am joined by
Paul at all, Deputy UKIP leader. It
is looking very positive for you at
the moment. We are finding that the
leave voters coming out. We have
seen is in the north-east and in
bellwether seats such as a Swindon.
Swansea has just voted. Let us put
this in perspective. We need roughly
60 million votes to win. UKIP
cancelled its party. Why did you do
that? Did we? I was not invited. I
am up here. That must have been in
London. If the nation votes remain
at the end of the day, where does
leave UKIP? Firstly, I am not
confident they are going to bow to
remain. Hopefully we voted to leave.
Win or lose this referendum we are
in a good position — vote. If we
win this referendum UKIP should get
the plaudits. If it was not for the
hard work we would not have got the
referendum in the first place. David
Cameron did not want to do this. He
was forced to it by UKIP. If we
lose, it will be very tight. The SNP
have done well out of losing a tight
referendum. Anger is very powerful
in politics. People will come to
UKIP in their droves. What has been
the key issue on the doorsteps? Is
it emigration? It depends on where
you are campaigning. In some areas
it is emigration. Others it has
fallen down on the economy and
sovereignty. It does depend. People
and communities in the north-east of
England want to take back control of
their lives, their borders, their
laws, and their money. You have any
regrets about the campaign and how
it has gone? Thinking about that
leave Prezza last week that people
were critical of. Not really. —
post up. It has been highly intense.
Both sides have pushed the barriers.
That was always to be expected. I do
not think so. The turnout is
massive. People have engaged in this
issue. Compare it to the turnout in
European elections. People are
taking notice on the issue of the
European Union. What we have seen
over the last couple of hours as the
pound plummeting against the dollar.
This is something a lot of Oher
remain people has said. They said it
could create an economic
catastrophe. –A lot of vote Remain.
We have had it from the Chancellor
and all the way through. If the
pound plummets it will only be for a
short period of time. It will
recover and we will move on and
Britain will sign its own trade
deals again. I believe our economy
will boom as a result of Britain
leaving the European Union and there
will be more jobs. Thank you both
talking to us. We are expecting
results throughout the evening. We
will get the declaration that no
definite time. They are saying
breakfast. Whether that will be
breakfast brunch I cannot tell you.
It will be a long night.
Here at the Emirates Arena in
Glasgow, we think we are a few
minutes away from getting the
result. The confident prediction is
there will be a sizeable chunk
voting for remain. We learned a few
minutes ago that the turnout he was
56.2%. Compare that to a general
election. That compares relatively
favourably. Compared to the
independence referendum, the city
was rather more engaged with the
debate. Back then it was 75%
compared to 85. You get an idea. The
picture we are getting is that we
are not getting the numbers turning
out. Looking at the fact that there
are 32 authorities returning numbers
this evening. All of them expecting
to return a remain vote. The Remain
camp are not getting the numbers
that they want. It is a complicated
picture when it comes to Scotland’s
relationship with the European
Union. The conventional wisdom is
that Scotland is pro-EU. When you
look at the polls and strip out the
undecideds you tend to find between
three fifths and three quarters of
Scots saying they want to remain
within the European Union. However,
the SNP, a minority government at
the moment, Polli 50% at the general
election last year it. Seven MPs
were returned of seven in Glasgow.
— polling. The SNP have a nuanced
relationship with the EU. They are,
by their own discretion, an avowedly
pro- European Union party. They see
Scotland as an independent nation
remaining part of the European Union
for trade reasons and others. The
SNP in itself has a critical
relationship with the European
Union. They are critical of the
Common Fisheries Policy. They do not
like the euro and do not want closer
fiscal ties. They have the same
problem that many on the Leave
campaign have. The problem with some
kind of supranational government
based in Brussels dictating to them
what they can do. Look at the
Scottish Government’s plans to
implement minimum alcohol pricing.
Even her problems with the human
rights. Because prisoners and
voting. What is interesting about
the debate that takes place in
Scotland is just how many of the
arguments were used in opposition
for Independent Scotland have been
trotted out by, amongst others,
Nicola Sturgeon to vote for
remaining in the European Union. It
is a step into the unknown. It is a
time of economic uncertainty, do we
want to take risks? Jobs could be
put at risk. Surely we want to be
part of a greater whole at a time
when the world economy is not in
great shape. We are expecting that
voting Glasgow in the next few
minutes. But across the board we
perhaps haven’t seen the turnout for
remain that many would have hoped.
Let us look now with around 30
results in at the picture. This is
the UK picture. As you can see,
Outer is currently on 53%. In it is
on 47%. — out is. It is a different
picture around the country. This is
the position in Scotland at the
moment. Scotland voting heavily for
Ian. 63% to 37%. Wales, let us look
at that. Wales is favouring out. 55%
to 45%. And England is going the
same way as Wales. Nearly 60% for
out and 40% for Ian. It has to be
said that we have not heard from
Manchester, London, Birmingham, or
many areas in the south as yet. That
shows England coming in one
direction and Scotland going in
another. Let us go to our senior
political correspondent Robert
Nisbet who is in Downing Street and
who has been testing private opinion
tonight. What are you hearing? We
are hearing more from the Labor
Party. A source has told me they are
blaming the SNP for the low turnout
in Scotland. This is a labour
source. — Labor Party. They have
run a lacklustre campaign with
minimal ground activity. Nicola
Sturgeon had more to say about
criticising the Remain camp and
making a positive case for Europe.
These parties seem to be turning on
themselves. They are going their own
polling day Cink spikes of
divergences are areas they expected
to see a strong support for leave
they are seeing a stronger support
for leave and the same for remain as
well. It sees how greater divisions
within the country have been. It is
not just Labour. It is the
Conservative Party as well that will
be looking at the inquest, after
this happens, regardless of the
vote. We have been talking about
this so-called SA Dave letter that
46 Tory MPs, many of which were
locally members, have signed, saying
that David Cameron should stay on as
leader, that he has a mandate to do
it. There are very prominent
campaigners. Also notable absences
from there, including Iain Duncan
Smith and Owen Paterson, the former
cabinet minister. A loss of
discussion that is going to be going
on there as to whether both these
leaders have done enough to fight
the Remain campaign as the numbers
seem to be getting worse for them.
As you have been pointing out, the
early part of the night was always
going to favour leaves. The Remain
camp is hoping they will make up
some of those numbers as the morning
goes thank you very much.
Provisional results starting to drip
through in Belfast. The Northern
Ireland official result is due in a
couple of hours. It is made up of a
number of different constituencies.
18 constituencies. Seven results are
in. We talk to our Ireland
correspondent about what we have
learned so far. Amongst the seven
provisional response what have we
learned? Seven results. Four voting
to remain. Three voting to leave. It
is fairly predictable. Nationalist
and moderately Unionist
constituencies are voting to remain
within the European Union. The more
hardline unionist constituencies
where democratic Unionist members
hold seats in Parliament they have
elected to leave. We have quite a
way to go. The turnout appears to be
quite low in some of the probe
remain areas. Earlier we saw a tweet
from the former leader the SNP, Alex
Hammond, suggesting that Northern
Ireland Scotland might tip the
balance. On the basis of these
figures it is looking doubtful. In
places where there is a remain
resolved the turnout has been much
lower. Therefore, the margin of
victory has been lower. The Leave
camp, even though they are not ahead
at this stage, I’m feeling a bit
buoyed by that in Belfast. They are.
I spoke to Nigel Dodds from the DUP
earlier. He said that he felt that
leave are doing better than expected
but he still expected remain to win.
That does put the first Minister
into a strange position. She is
obviously be leading leave vote, but
it could be that the people she
represents vote completely
differently. Leading that Leave
campaign with a fairly low profile
because she has not been very
actively campaigning for a leave
vote even though her party takes
that position. One of the
interesting results we have seen
this evening, this morning, I should
say, is from south to Rhone. Haron
constituency runs right to the Irish
border. Thank you. Lots more to
The results now are piling in.
Turn-out, we know, is at about 70%.
We have nearly 40 results so far.
That is beginning to give us a feel
of how the night is progressing. The
man who is making the analysis and
making forecasts based on this is
Professor Michael Thrasher. Also
with him is Mike Conway. Tell us
what you are doing and how it helps
you predict the way the evening they
go at the end. With the results we
have been receiving, we compare that
with our estimate of where we
thought that authority should have
declared its results. What we are
noticing is that there is a
consistent pattern where the
expected leave vote is actually
higher in the results. Therefore,
that is leading us towards a
forecast that shows leave a head of
remain. Quite a comfortable margin
as it stands. 56 versus 44. That is
a big gap. I should say, at this
point, we are really short of
results in some key regions of the
country, particularly London, the
south-east, which is the biggest
region, and the north-west. It is an
early forecast, but it does look
rather better for leave, as Nigel
Farage was saying at the outside of
the programme at ten o’clock. Let me
just ask you, are you saying you are
counting already in that projection
of 56% for strong results coming in
for the other side in London and
other areas of the country on?
Know I am not, it is not a reliable
prediction, it is a forecast. It has
noted consistently that the expected
leave vote is higher in the actual
results than the estimate. That is
across the board in terms of the
results declared, particularly in
the north-east of England. That has
been repeated in Hartlepool a red
card and Tyneside. If the Southeast
and London does not counteract that
tendency for Leave to better its
estimate, the Remain vote has been
much higher than we were expecting
to counterbalance that. Otherwise,
the Remain camp is not going to
catch up with the lead.
OK, let’s go to Oxford and get the
result there. The total number of
votes cast in favour of leave was
20,913. So Oxford’s results for
Remain are in. I think that was
pretty widely anticipated there,
wasn’t it, that the university towns
would heavily favour Remain? Oh yes,
if Oxford had voted out then really,
it is game over. Only Oxford and
Cambridge and Harrogate voted that
way in England. It is really strong
results in the south-east of
England, in parts of the Midlands
now, and especially London is so
critical now to the remain camp.
They’re really has to be a very
strong Remain vote, in that densely
populated area. It is absolutely
critical. As we said Michael, that
70% for in, you are talking about
Out outperforming in its area. Is
that in Oxford, 70.3% outperforming
what you were expecting? I have just
seen that on the screens I’ve not
had the time to digesters. I have
been told by our number crunchers in
a year, that it is in fact. Oh well,
they have an adventure Japanese. OK,
we will come back on that. A lot of
people are saying I wanted to go to
bed and look at the results in the
morning, but a lot of people are
saying on Twitter but I cannot go to
bed because the results are so
Now let’s go to Ed Conway. Yes,
thank you. You can see what is
happening to the pound at the
moment. Economically speaking, this
is the story of the night. The pound
which fell very sharply when those
initial results came in and
recovered after that has plummeted
again, at this stage it got down
close to about $1 40, only a few
hours later it was a dollar 50. As
far as we know, that is basically
unprecedented. Already as volatile
day as what we had back in Black N
1982. Remember that we had David
Cameron arguing that it could be
worse than Black Wednesday if we
left the EU. This has been the most
volatile day for trading in the
pound sterling in modern record, and
it is still only three hours into
the Count. Traders were nervous,
they were selling off and trying to
look for ways to hedge their
exposure to the UK, and they have
been selling off. This is a
barometer of how well the UK economy
is going, so a lot of people are
very worried indeed.
Thank you very much. Let’s go back
to Scotland and Glasgow with Neil
Paterson, we believe that the result
is coming in there. One would have
to get and the referendum, based on
we have seen elsewhere in Scotland,
that this is somewhere where the
Remain campaign will win. Yes, I
would say so. Certainly given the
fact that this is now an SNP town.
The SNP are a very pro-EU party.
Let’s just briefly, we are expecting
that count in just a couple of
minutes time, in fact we had just in
getting the audio signal that we
have a 22nd warning. We might just
go to get that result now.
As counting officer for the Glasgow
boating area in the referendum, I
hereby give notice that I had
certified the following. The total
number of ballot papers counted was
253,000. The total number of votes
cast in favour of Remain was
168,335. So Glasgow has voted
remain. The total number of votes
cast to leave was over 85,000. Be
margined their 168,004 Remain,
85,004 Leave. So Neil, what is your
reaction? Yes, well it looks roughly
like 2-1 in favour of remain. Are
you pleased with that? Delighted by.
By my maths, that is 66% in favour
of remaining in the EU from
Scotland’s vote. We have still got
Edinburgh to come. I would expect a
strong Remain vote in Edinburgh too.
Every metropolitan area that has
reported so far has ported a strong
Remain victory. Or other counts that
we have seen in Scotland, we do see
all of them voting to remain. 53.3%
turnout in the city which has seven
of seven SNP MPs, that is not great.
That area always has a long turnout,
historically. The criticism by
Labour is that you have not
campaigned hard enough. That did
come from a source in London who
obviously know nothing about the
campaign on the ground here. 66% is
a very strong result, and we have
had very strong results in the rest
of Scotland. Unfortunately, looking
at what has happened in the
rest of England…
The total number of votes cast in
favour of remaining in the European
Union was 44,987. The number of
votes cast in favour of Leave was
34,271. So Falkirk has voted In, in
Scotland. Falkirk has followed a
pattern in Scotland, which is voting
two to one to remain in the European
Union. The In campaigner has now
pulled ahead of the out campaign,
with these latest results. — the
It has to be said, there is already
some bad blood between the Labour
Party and the SNP in Scotland.
Labour saying as you are saying that
the SNP has not turned out its vote.
Yes, and that of course is a charge
that has been roundly denied by the
SNP. Let’s turn back to you and the.
What does this mean for Scotland? We
have seen that there may be in the
next few weeks, the prospect of
another referendum for Scotland. If
Britain votes to leave the European
Union, when does that
settle down… We are just going to
another count now, Wandsworth in
London. The total number of votes
cast in favour of Remain was
118,463. The total number of votes
cast in favour of Leave was 39,000
So a big vote in favour of Remain in
Wandsworth in South Central London
there. Wandsworth has voted In, that
also gives eight boost to the lead
currently enjoyed by the In
That is the picture in London so
far, with three out of 34 results
declared. London voting three to one
in favour of Remain. That could well
be a key to the end of the evening.
Let’s have a look at the UK so far.
As you can see, 71% of Wandsworth
voting for Remain.
We can probably have a look at
Scotland as well, and you will see
there that there is a much bigger
margin for in, approaching 60%.
Michael, those results really will
have lifted the In campaigner a lot?
Certainly. Is all about expectations
in terms of the size of the Remain
votes not be London, because it has
such a large population, is so
crucial to the remain camp. Both the
result in Lambeth and in Wandsworth
were a much higher vote for Remain.
That is just too much results
against all the other results coming
in from the north-west. It is an
indication perhaps that London is
going to strongly support Remain,
and is part of the south-east, not
all of the south-east but some of
the south-east follows that
trajectory, we should see the
numbers tip away from Leave and back
to Remain. That result has really
changed my view of that, that it
will be a tight race. If more
results coming from London and the
south-east favouring Remain, and of
course the north-west of England. I
see we have gone to the 1 million
mark, but it is actually abound
about 16 million until they will
pass the victory mark, so there is
still a long way to go. That was a
very impressive result in Glasgow.
There was a high turnout there, and
it was a good result for In. 66.6%,
just bear in mind that is 168,000
votes there. Just to emphasise the
viewers, it is not simply the place
that declares, it is the size.
Glasgow is full of it in terms of
electoral size in the country, and
given that it has cast such a heavy
vote for In, that can only be good
news for the Remain side. We are
seeing a lot of places in the south
of England, a bit further away from
London, favouring Out. Yes, parts of
ethics we know are going to vote to
Some of those parts have been
strongly in favour of UKIP. We know
that they will be strong supporters.
It is the other areas of the
south-east. The more affluent areas
of south-eastern England that really
are very important in terms of the
remain side and also the way in
which the National vote will go
because the south-east and London
together are such a large fraction
of the overall electorate. Thank you
very much.
In Clapton, still counting. Judging
by the piles behind me, those with
the leave read papers on them look
like they are in the majority. With
me is the MEP from the eastern
region, Richard Howlett. Thank you
for joining us. Why would you say
that people in your region are
deserting, if you like, or voting
Leave? I would not use the word
deserting. This is a region we have
always known to be highly
Eurosceptic. We are the only
constituency in the country with a
UKIP MEP. As we have seen elsewhere
in Exeter and Oxford, when the big
university cities, and in my region
that is Cambridge and Norwich, you
will also see big support they are.
What who will see in this region is
what we are seeing in the country,
some guy and not that happy about,
but a very divided nation with
polarisation. Some fall, some
against. Increasingly, evident. What
you think you need to do to
reconnect with the electorate in
this area? A lot of it are
connecting. As far as the Labour
vote is concerned, we do listen. We
find, not just the Labor Party, but
all of us putting the case to remain
in this referendum, is that if you
have 20 years of the trip, drip of
Euroscepticism, then the Westminster
bubble and the last few weeks you
have the positive case. The European
Parliament, on behalf of the Labor
Party, either we will win there is
narrowly, too narrowly, or the
danger is we will fall out of the
European Union altogether. If we do
when it you have to embrace European
politics as part of our politics and
not go back to business as usual.
You still have a job to do in this
area. Many issues that concern
people here have not been addressed
by your party. The main one,
immigration, for people here. We
have to make the case for Europe and
the case for immigration. To
understand people ‘s concerns, but
not simply reflect them back to them
but put the positive case. The great
irony, if Britain were to leave the
European Union, is that the people
who would most suffer are the
people, like ER, in insecure,
low-paid jobs, the tourist industry,
casual jobs. They would be the first
to see their services cut. — like
here. Have we sufficiently put
forward the case? You can always do
more. On behalf of the Labour Party,
all of our figures show that we are
the most pro- European party of all
the mainstream UK parties. I am
proud of the campaign we have bought
in the last weeks. Thank you very
much. This is the third most
Eurosceptic area according to the
polling. We are expecting a
declaration at around 4am.
Some clapping he and the hall in
Birmingham as the first results are
put on the board behind us for the
West Midlands region. North
Warwickshire. 67% for leave. 37 for
remain. Tamworth, similar
proportions as well. To make strong
results for leave. We understand
that the turnout for Birmingham will
come in about half-an-hour. Sources
from both sides are suggesting that
it is a very close, but it may edge
to remain. We have a board member of
vote Leave nationally. You also set
up Muslims for Britain. How
confident you feel about the result
here in Birmingham that delivers a
big punch in terms of numbers?
Birmingham is very important. The
truth is, it is so close to call. It
is hard to see how Birmingham will
swing. Soho, where Muslims for
Britain has been campaigning,
despite the poll suggesting other
works, it is on a knife edge. —
otherwise. It is too close to call.
The perceived wisdom is that most
British Asians in this country would
like to vote Remain. Is that not
what you are finding? That is not
what we are finding. What we will
find is that perceived wisdom is
will not come through in this
referendum. I think minorities, we
have been talking to them, we have
been going to community centres and
around the region, it is astounding
how much Project Fear has not
worked. When you get the message of
hope and talk about the EU
referendum and asked them about what
the European referendum is doing for
them, they did not have the answers
for it. We are seeing that
minorities are looking at how the EU
affects them. That is what we will
see in the ballot box. You think
this is an exciting time, don’t you,
even though people are saying that
if we vote for Brexit in the UK we
might seek Tory and Labour
leadership contest and a general
election called, Scottish
Referendum, plans to call free
unification of Ireland’s. Is that
concern you at all? Are a lot of
things to come into the future. What
is exciting is the level of turnout.
If you want to see an act of 100%
democracy in the 21st century, this
is it. This referendum is showing
are coming out and they have an
opinion to voice. Who are the people
who are voting for leave? There is
no wind demographic. Everyone is
looking at how would affect them.
That is what is so surprising. When
we have spoken to people, different
people have different reasons. Some
people are trading with China or
India or Pakistan and do not trade
with Europe and said as an
unnecessary burden. Immigration has
been a big factor for many
minorities. Many of the British
Muslims are south Asian in a
heritage. They don’t understand why
the EU discriminates a gas migration
from non-EU countries and it
directly impacts on. — against.
Good to talk to you. A board member
of vote Leave nationally. Turn-out
still not here in Birmingham. The
word on the street is that it is too
close to call for Birmingham. That
delivers a massive number of voters,
potentially 700,000. The turnout
will be less than that. The pound
reacting strongly to the news we are
getting through. We get more from
Hong Kong and Katie Stallard. Good
morning from Hong Kong and the
trading floor of Fidelity
International where the
ramifications of this are being
watched carefully. The current
position of the pound sterling,
which we have seen moving Diack
extremely volatile opening this
morning. Firstly it was app. Over
1.5 to the dollar. What you are
looking at here, it appeared to be
sunderland. That was 7:15 a.m., at
just past midday your time. That
would coincide approximately with
that sunderland result. — midnight.
You can see how this is moving
across into the global markets. Let
me bring in the Catherine Young,
Asian equities expert. Let me ask
the your take on what we are seeing
across the markets as morning. In
men’s levels of volatility and
uncertainty. Every time we try to
form a narrative it changes within
minutes. — immense. You get the
sense that the actual outcome is a
lot closer than the polls were
indicating previously. This is how
traders are watching this coming. It
is the newsfeed and you watch the
individual headlines. What kind of
reactions? We saw headlines on
British banking shares. Proxies the
UK, HSBC and so forth opened down
3.4%. The Japanese, the Israeli
stock markets opened up and then got
sold off. — Australian. After
Glasgow we saw a balance. There is
so much volatility going through.
Volumes are quite liked within the
various equity markets in our part
of the world. How much attention
should we be paying to these very
volatile swings? How much of this is
just volatile sentiment?, should we
be genuinely concerned about? At the
end of the day, whatever the
outcome, even if it is remain,
because the gap is so Narre Warren
lead to further questions. This
uncertainty is likely to continue.
— it is so narrow it will lead to.
Most of the corporate here earn
revenues in profits, about 60%
domestically… This is Nuneaton. We
will interrupter. I hereby give
notice that I have certified the
following. The total number of
ballot papers counted was 69,876.
The total number of votes cast in
favour of remain was 23,000 700 and
36. — 23,736. Nuneaton bows out
then. — vote out. The total number
rejected. Both had 20. Iron
tallboy… Let us have a look at the
UK picture. It is on a knife edge.
Dufty .94 remaining in the UK. 49.1
four leaving. Absolutely close. We
can go now to Ed Conway for more
Thanks, Adam. We are looking through
the states of the country. You see
these results. Nuneaton has just
gone blue. Blue for leave. Yellow
for remain. You can see the picture
of the country as a whole. These are
every single one. 382, local
authorities mostly. This is
throughout the UK and where they
stand at the moment. It does look,
doesn’t it, like there could be a
little bit more blue Danielle Lowe.
But the important thing to remember,
as you scan across… — band
yellow. Rearrange the numbers so
they are by the population size of
these areas. You get a slightly
different picture emerging. These
areas over here are the areas with
the biggest populations. Those areas
on the other side are the areas with
the global population. Bigger to
smaller. There are areas here like
Gibraltar, the Scilly Isles, the
City of London, all very pro-Remain.
There is a pattern whereby areas
with slightly smaller populations
are tending to be leave. There is a
cluster so far. It is early days.
There is a cluster of areas with
higher populations which are voting
for remain. I want to compare to
particular examples. Glasgow, which
was a pretty strong remain vote,
66.6%. Because it has a very high
population, use it up if I right
hand side. Because it has a high
population, 66.6. But the margin,
the number of extra votes that go
towards the Remain camp… We are
going to Grimsby now. North-east
Leics. Is the number of votes cast
in favour of leave was 55,185.
APPLAUSE). For clarity,…
North-east Lincolnshire has voted
out. We now go to Scotland. It was
95,000. The number of votes cast in
favour of leave the European Union
was 59,400. North Lanarkshire, and
again, Scottish area, voting heavily
in favour of remaining in the
European Union. Two unmarked or void
for uncertainty …
Stroud has just voted in. With me is
the shadow cabinet minister and in
campaign Jon Ashworth MP. I have to
ask you… What on earth are you
going to ask me? What you think of
it so far? It is just so close. It
is so close. I sincerely and
desperately hope that remaining in
the European Union wins in the end.
I hope that some of these bigger
cities and London areas will come
through for us. We still do not have
my own city of Leicester, which I
think will be in favour of remain.
We have not got Nottingham or
Birmingham or Manchester. I am
hoping these big-city areas and
London will keep us… What is your
feeling about those big-city areas?
From a Owens is of going around
those areas I think it is very
strong for remain. — from my own
experience will stop there is a
difference in the country between
the city areas and the towns and
suburbs. That is something all
politicians will have to reflect on.
In the Labour Party we will have to
reflect on it because the Labour
cities are doing well for remain.
But the towns and suburbs are not.
The result for Remain is just
breaking the 3 million mark. But
then look at this, look at Scotland.
Scotland voting 62% to 37.8% for
remaining. Then we have Wales, which
has been pretty unexpected, voting
fairly heavily for out. 55% to 45%,
more heavily than in the UK. This is
the picture in England, we have had
a few London results. 55% to 45%.
Now, it is a disunited England,
isn’t it? Well, the country is very
divided. I think politicians have to
understand why. I have our own
theories why. I think the European
economy does not benefit people. Why
is it that only 5% of school leavers
go on to do apprenticeships? This
economy is not working, I think
Google are rejecting that in this
vote. There we have it now. Watford
voting out, Wigan voting out, it
does appear that a lot of people in
this country feel that the present
system is not working for them. I
think that is right. People are
using this referendum to give the
government a kicking. They are
kicking the government over things
like contracts, the fact that they
feel their wages are being undercut.
These are big issues on the ballot
paper this referendum. But what
about the economic impact, because
it was seen as pretty negatively
internationally. Presumably people
who all already feel under pressure
will fill even more under pressure.
Definitely. I am so worried about
what this means for my constituency,
and for the jobs of people I
represent in Leicester. If it is as
tight as it is, can it be a decisive
result. You know, on this pattern
there is only going to be a couple
of 100 votes in it, not tens of
thousands of votes in it. I think a
win is a win, and politicians have
got to respect that. They have got
to understand that that will mean
that 49% of the vote did not support
whichever side winds. I mean there
are people, we have already heard
Nigel Farage saying even if we lose,
we have one because not so long ago,
66% of the country backed the idea
of staying in the European Union.
Now it is down to 55% and it is only
going in one direction, he will say.
I think it Remain win, that will
settle the question. Once it is
done, it is done. I think
politicians have to accept that we
have to understand why people voted
the way they did. I will be arguing
that we in the Labour Party, we’re
having a shadow Cabinet meeting
tomorrow, what we have to do is get
out of London and go to Sunderland,
Middlesbrough and we can, to areas
that have voted to leave and find
out why people voted the way they
did. And you think it is because…
I think it is because of the economy
and immigration. On the question of
immigration, Jeremy Corbyn thinks
that immigration spreads advantage
to the disadvantaged and is fair.
Many Britons feel that this is
foreigners coming in and taking our
wages. Well, I have seen for myself
how immigration can benefit a city.
I mean Leicester is a brilliant,
more vibrant city today because
people have emigrated to Leicester
and made contributions to it. There
are people who feel that their wages
are undercut, that the economy
disadvantages them, and we have got
to understand that. We want to
support public services in an area,
we want to stop firms advertising
just in Europe and not advertising
those jobs in the UK. You know, the
UK economy according to the Heritage
foundation, says we are the fourth
OK, we are going after Liverpool.
The number of votes rejected due to
no official mark, zero. The number
of votes that could not be
identified, four. The total number
of ballot papers rejected… We have
a couple of sound problems there in
Liverpool, we will bring you that
result as soon as we get it. You say
we need to get out of London, does
that mean you need to get rid of the
leader who is from London to
personify. — who saw top
personifies the upper classes. It is
not about Jeremy Corbyn. My point is
does he speak to Labour voters in
Wigan? Well, of course he does. We
saw an election just a couple of
months ago where the turnout was big
in those areas, and people went out
and voted for Labour. Clearly, there
is a big issue in towns and suburbs,
and those sorts of constituencies
that we need to win back if we are
going to form government. We need to
go out and listen to people and
respond to what they tell us.
We are just going to an area in
Wales, which is the first area to
vote in. Liverpool has also voted
in. Thank you very much indeed.
Well, that Liverpool result was an
interesting one. That was the 10th
result from the north so far, and
that was the first one to vote in.
This is Islington. The total number
of ballot papers counted was…
The total number of votes cast in
favour of Leave was was 25180… So,
Islington votes three to one marks
for Remain, in Jeremy Corbyn’s
backyard. A boost for the Remain
campaign from Islington in London,
of course widely expected. ( Jane in
Manchester. — let’s go back to Jane
in Manchester. That is the first
northern result to declare in,
Liverpool. It was thought that
Liverpool was going to vote out, but
there was some traction on social
media in the path couple of days
saying that the Remain camp appeared
to be winning out in Liverpool is up
in we have talked about that already
a lot this evening. Interesting,
Wigan is an area that has a textile
industry that has been affected
enormously by international
competition. It has voted out. You
can look at the figures there, 63%
for Out, In 36.1%.
Now we are looking at another area,
probably the most Eurosceptic area
in the UK. It too has voted out.
That is a little bit closer than we
had been expecting. Blackpool has
also voted out. St Helens and
Merseyside, an area with higher than
average national unemployment,
mostly Labour voters was expected to
remain that has voted out. Burnley
was also expected to be remain, but
it has also voted to leave. Even in
some of the areas we were expecting
to remain, they too are voting out.
Of the ten areas we have had coming
from the north, only Liverpool voted
to remain in. Thank you very much.
Take a look at the bottom right-hand
corner of your screen for the
results, as they come in. Let’s look
at the picture in England. This a
rather clear reversal really.
Scotland going the other way,
Scotland is 62% in an 38% out. And
this is Wales, we are just getting
the first result in for Wales. They
are also pretty heavily for out.
We are at the Remain party, it was
pretty subdued an hour or so ago. It
has livened up a little bit, they
have been very pleased with the
results coming in from central
London, particularly Wandsworth. It
has been called the Wandsworth bump,
the pound going up something like 7
cents as a result of events in
Wandsworth. It was going very well,
how are you feeling? It is just so
close. An interstate the obvious, it
shows our country is split right
down the middle so far on this. None
of us can say which side will come
out on top, as things stand. If it
becomes Remain thanks to Scotland
and London, there is a lot of work
to do around the country. There is a
lot of work to do because the result
is so close. What I have found about
this, is that certainly for people
who have immigration very high on
their list of concerns, but there is
something else going on here as
well. People have a very real sense
of pessimism about the country and
their place in it. I think we have
got a big job to do to try and
create a future that everyone can
believe in, and at the moment,
millions of our fellow citizens
don’t feel that. Is very close, 49%
to 51%. You have got to have another
referendum. No, I do not think
anybody has to have another
referendum. It is a big leadership
test. What the country needs after
this is good leadership that says we
have a very divisive process here
are. We have to create a future that
can bring those sides together, at
least in some part. I think that is
going to be a really important
question. Thank you. Just have a
chat to some the people in the room.
Hi, you alive on Sky News guys. Do
you think they were little bit less
confident than they were earlier? It
is early days, it will be close but
I think we are feeling good. Is
going to be close, a close result
but a win for Remain. We will see.
Good luck. We will wander over this
way as well. A very quick chat, very
quickly, live on Sky News. Are we
going to win? Yes, we think so.
Especially when results coming from
places like Edinburgh and other
metropolitan areas. Thank you very
much indeed, thank you a lot. That
is the mood at the Remain party at
the moment. Continuing coverage here
on Sky News.
You’re watching Decision Time on Sky
News. Counting time is under way in
the EU referendum. Paul is five
hours ago and the declarations we
had a fire show it is an incredibly
close race with just over 100 seat
to the Mac declared. That
uncertainty has been reflected on
currency markets the pound has been
seen as the most volatile trading on
record. To recap this is how things
currently stand. In the United
Kingdom, Ian has 50.3% of the votes.
Out has 49.7% of the votes.
Kingdom, Ian has 50.3% of the votes.
Out has 49.7% of the votes.
Out has 49.7% of the votes.
Different patterns around the
nation, this is Wales,
Different patterns around the
nation, this is Wales, Wales
nation, this is Wales, Wales is
voting for out, 54.7%, to Ian on
45.3% at Scotland, is voting in with
62.2%. This is the picture in
England. Of course, by far the
biggest population centre of the UK
nation, Outers currently favoured in
England and in the last few minutes
Richard upon Thames has voted to
remain in. Gloucester voting to come
out. With me now are the former
Shadow Home Secretary and the former
business Secretary. Vince cable,
which way is this heading? None of
us now but it looks more probable
that we are going to finish up with
Lee for a — leave or a wafer thin
majority to remain. It seems to be,
I have no more an expert than anyone
else but that seems to be the trend.
We need to think about that
scenario. I broadly agree. We expect
at this time of the evening, even
the way the votes being counted,
remained could be three or four
points ahead and it looks like a 51
or 52% vote for leave. Will mean
huge transformation. Someone has to
start thinking about all of the
reorganisation has begun. The
trading relationships with the EU
address the world and our industrial
and economic strategy. It is a
complete transformation. Massive
consequences economic and political,
we will have a bath economic league
tomorrow, but in terms of the real
economy, it a big hit in the short
run. Confidence evaporating and in
the longer run, people like me have
been warning whether it is going to
be a very difficult five years until
all of this is sorted out.
Politically i.e. Think David
Cameron’s position will be
impossible unless it improves the
next couple of hours. The Labour
Party have had a terrible night,
their authority has deteriorated.
The Scottish scenario is played out
as we feared and that is a problem
not just for the future referendum
but their lack of cooperation over
devolved powers. Potentially very
messy. If you are right and leave
wins, waders that leave David
Cameron? — where’s that if he sets
up a sensible position for
negotiation but his position is
impossible. The exit requires are
two or three year long negotiation
and a difficult one. Therefore
stability at home and therefore the
argument should even interstate. —
to stay. You are not a signatory to
this letter? I don’t sign letters
being nice for nasty to governments.
I think it is just impossible. For
the Westminster voting area at the
referendum held on 23 June 2016
under the European Union Referendum
Act 2015 and having been authorised
to do so by the Regional Counting
Officer I hereby give notice that I
have certified the following: The
total number of votes cast in favour
of remain was 53928. The total
number of votes cast in favour of
leave was to four 3268. And the
number of ballot papers rejected was
as follows. So there we have eight,
Westminster, as we have seen much in
London, a fairly substantial margin
for Ian. All so have both put camps
crossed the 4 million mark. If you
look at the total is on the corner
of the screen, less than 1% is in.
Half a percent of the lead. It
doesn’t rather characterise it. We
have not had the Midlands yet. What
you have seen is something I have
seen on the ground which is where
the working areas of Britain are
voting out. The problem the Labour
Party is that a number of the
working class voters are feting out.
Partly because their pay as not
increase and they see it as an
immigration. We do not know what the
result from Birmingham will be. I
don’t think it will be quite as
stark as the North but it will be in
that direction. I will agree with
that, I think we are in leave
territory and I think we have to be
realistic about it and start
thinking through the imprecations.
And was very sad that my party was
the only one united on this. It was
a bad 90 year ago and it is a bad
night now. Peterborough going out,
Bridgend going out. This may be the
point where having had a lead
running the votes are that we are
beginning to see the Out Campaign
overtake in again. It has gone back
and forth tonight. We have been
saying how difficult will have to be
an LB difficult negotiations and the
Prime Minister’s position is in
question. Why on earth did you want
this result if it is going to be so
difficult. Vince and I will disagree
about this. We agree that there will
be financial instability. We go to
Aberdeen. The total number of votes
cast in favour of leave was 47,000.
Aberdeen votes to remain. What we
are seeing now is 50% are on a
tight. And that has gone up for the
Aberdeen result to 49%. Effectively
with turnout of 70% we are seeing at
Thai in the nation. –A time. Those
go to a Conway for analysis. Let us
have a look at our big screen with
all of the different local voting
areas and you get a sense of the way
this vote is going. Look at the
colour of all of these. Aberdeen on
the top left, just coming through
for remain. Leave our blue and —
leave is blue and remain is yellow.
Each of these different areas are
arranged alphabetically. Letters
zoom out and have a look at what we
see happen if we arrange them by
size. Look at where the colours are
going. There is quite a lot of blue
back here but these are the bigger
areas. And they get smaller as we go
to the right. It was always going to
be the case for remain that they
were doing well in the left and then
not so well over here. Have a look
in that form it can give you even
more of a sense. He was a heat map,
everything that is orange is in,
everything that is Lou is out. The
darker it is, the more people are
voting for it. Across the UK and
Wales you have big swathes of blue.
Scotland is very orange indeed. That
suggests people voting strongly for
remain. When you dig through and let
me show you,. Let us go to
Darlington for their declaration. I
hereby give notice that I have
certified the following: The total
number of ballot papers counted was
55,000 The total number of votes
cast in favour of remain was 24,000
172. The total number of votes cast
in favour of leave was 30900 and 94.
Darlington in the north-east and we
are seeing Cambridge voting for out.
That contains Clacton. We are 5058
yen. That is the result for
Darlington,. The results in the West
Midlands region are coming through
thick and fast, seven out of 30,
Tamworth and North Warwickshire,
Telford on free can, if you cast
your mind back to the 2015 general
election, that was the key labour
will Tory marginal. Consider
delivering the labour victory as
anticipated by the polls, it
produced a swing of 3% to the
Tories. It has come out in favour of
leave with 66% to 34%. We have just
had the turnout, and let me bring
you Caroline ‘s Spelman. Local MP.
You have been working really hard
and your T-shirt says it all. How
are you feeling? It is still very
early. We only have a quarter of the
declarations. The standout result is
that result from the north-east
which is out of kilter with the
predictions for the whole region. We
think about what has happened to
them with the collapse in steel
price and the closure of Redcar I
think we can understand where it is
coming from. For our region it is
really significant because we are a
major exporting region for the UK
and we export far more to the EU
then we import so the West Midlands
suffers. Put Project Fear aside,
what you think is going to mean for
places that rely on the car
industry? I real concern is for the
car industry and the manufacturing
industries in our region here. We
haven’t had the result of Birmingham
but it is likely to vote to remain,
we haven’t yet heard the M40
corridor seats which is very much a
automotive focused, Warrican
lamington. When a Tesla cars. For
the car industry this is very
serious and their bosses did write
to the workforce, not just in our
region but also in the north-east.
What is going wrong for your
campaign here in this region? What
is driving people to believe that
exiting the European Union is right
for them and their communities? I
found on the doorstep that it is a
very complex vote and people had a
whole range of reasons for voting
and lots of them were not to do with
the European Union. It brings a lot
of wider issues in her referendum
and I tried to get people to focus
on the West Midlands in a major
exporting region in the UK, there
are only two in trade surplus, the
West Midlands and the north-east. I
don’t think the West Midlands can
compensate for the out of kilter
results in the north-east. I think
Birmingham will vote to remain at
how the big cities vote is very
important in the overall result. We
have low turnout in Scotland and
London, the thunderstorm in London.
To think we are going to exit the
Europe he knew because of bad
weather? I think the British are
made of tough stuff than that and I
think that people will care
passionately and make a big effort
to go to the polls, we have been
blessed with good weather in the
West Midlands but right now my
concern is for our country. The
pound is falling in value, that is
not a good sign, that is how people
look at our world from the outside.
We are in exporter and our little
market is the European Union.
250,000 jobs are linked directly to
our membership of the EU.
What about the politics of this?
Can David Cameron
survive despite the
mandate he received from more
than 80 Conservative MPs?
I am much less worried about the
country than I am about my party. He
had a letter calling on him to
continue as Prime Minister. That is
surely a good sign that the party
wants to come back together. It is
quite apparent to me that there is a
desire out what the referendum is
over to come back together and get
on with the business of governing.
Thank you. Getting some more from
our electoral analysis team. First
two-hour professor at Plymouth
University. What is your forecast
currently telling you? Since we last
did a check in the nationwide
picture, it is still very close. But
Out is now ahead again. Yes, with
over 135 results declared, we are
still saying that the league
campaign are ahead, Albie hit with a
slightly narrower gap than
previously thought — Leave. —
albeit. This is the current forecast
based on 140 of the 382 results so
far. We have some big commendations
to come in, Birmingham, much of
London, Coventry, other big cities.
Will they make much difference?
Anywhere with a large population is
bound to make a difference. The
fundamental problem for the Remain
camp is that the… Their actual
vote must now be larger than the
vote that was forecast. The forecast
was for a very narrow Remain win,
and the current forecast is showing
a narrow win for Leave. In order to
address that imbalance, the Remain
camp have to win places like
Birmingham and elsewhere rather
healthily. London is still crucial,
the south-east of England is still
crucial and the north-west is also
crucial. Fundamentally, we have not
had too many results from the
Yorkshire and Humberside region, and
that may play a pivotal part in the
final analysis. At the moment,
things are still good for the remain
side. Sorry, still good for the
Leave site — Remain. You can see
the figures at present for each
campaign. Going to John Craig at the
Leave party. A huge contrast between
the gloomy mood at the Remain
headquarters and the party going on
here. Every win for Leave is being
cheered loudly. The only complaint
is that they stopped serving booze
at 2am, because they would like to
be toasting some of these victories.
I am joined by someone who has been
hugely influential in this campaign.
John Mills, a big Labour Party donor
and a big donor to the Leave
campaign. What appears to be
significant here is that in labour
heartlands, people are voting to
leave the EU. Why do you think that
is? I think it is because there has
been a big separation between the
Labor Party and its supporters, that
is why you are seeing these results.
I think the mistake that the Labor
Party made was campaigning so
strongly in favour of staying in,
rather than having a more
constructive but critical stance. I
think labour voters in the North
could have related to that, but once
they started the scare campaign, it
just wasn’t credible to many of the
people in northern England who are
suffering from wage cuts and the
like. It is just not where they are.
Should Jeremy Corbyn be blamed by
the Remain campaign? I think that he
would be concerned about the fact
that so many Labour voters have not
voted for the labour policy in the
referendum. If you get a large
number of Labour voters who vote
against the party’s policy, that is
not good news for the future. We go
to Great Yarmouth. One of the most
Eurosceptic parts of the country.
I hereby give notice that I have
certified the following.
The total number of ballot
papers counted was: ,.
The total number of votes cast
in favour of Remain was: 14,284.
The total number of votes cast
in favour of Leave was: 35,844.
The number of ballot papers
rejected was as follows.
No official mark – 0.
A large number of victories for the
outside, now meaning that the margin
is even greater. You can see the
margins here. More voting in favour
of Leave. We go to Ed Conway. Thank
you. Let’s have a look at this, this
gives you a sense of the race we are
seeing at the moment between the two
sides. This is one of those
referendums… Going to Sheffield.
I hereby give notice that I have
certified the following.
The total number of ballot papers
counted was: 266,951.
The total number of votes cast
in favour of Remain was: 130,735.
The total number of votes cast
in favour of Leave was: 136,118.
Sheffield has voted for Out as well.
Milton Keynes has also voted Out. We
go back to Ed Conway. Thank you. I
was just showing you this,
essentially the kind of race between
Out and Leave. This is a referendum
where every single vote counts. What
is crucial is who will get to the
winning line that we have calculated
at 16.8 million votes at first?
Noting at the moment, regarding
those results from Great Yarmouth.
The Out side is winning this race
with 6.2 million votes at the
moment, compared with 48.94 Remain.
Even if it was going to be 50-50,
you would expect that Remain would
be nosing ahead at this stage. That
in itself is bad news. What Remain
were really hoping for was that the
big cities were going to come out
and vote for them. Let’s have a look
at the biggest electorates. They are
cities with populations of over
200,000, in terms of voting members
of the public. And the expectation
or hope amongst those in the remain
camp was that most of these would go
yellow. Yellow in our graphics means
Remain, Lu means Leave. There is
still quite a lot of blue in now. —
in there. It is striking, you are
starting to see a lot more blue and
yellow across here as those results
come in. Many of these areas were
expected to go for Remain, but have
instead swung across and devoted to
Leave. Have a look at the
cartography here, the data they are,
the more in favour of leaving they
are. We expected a lot of England to
be in favour of leaving. But Wales
also, large parts of Wales are
painted in blue. Moving up to
Scotland, Scotland was always
expected to vote to Remain. But what
was the turnout going to be like for
Scotland? The turnout in Scotland,
65.8%. Back at the referendum for
independence, it was 85%. So, the
concern here is that Scotland didn’t
turn out to revoked for the Remain
camp. Compared to England, look at
this. Turnout of 72.4%. In England,
people did turn out. They voted,
they turned out to vote to Leave.
That is the picture we are seeing at
the moment. Right now, very worrying
for the Remain camp. What could be a
relatively comfortable victory for
the Leave camp looks quite possible.
With me right now is the Shadow
Defence Secretary Emily Thornberry.
You must be pleased about that, but
dismayed by the State of the results
coming in? It is worrying, but I
think it is still too early to say.
By this stage we are expecting more
London results and we haven’t had
them yet. That is a very large
population centre. You still think
that’s a chance? Yes, it is very
close as you can see. We still have
a long way to go. We did see
population centres which were Labour
targets and which were areas where
the Leave campaign was hoping to do
well, what do you think went along
quite fellow I think there was a lot
of concern about access to public
services. I think there is a crisis
in terms of housing, people are fed
up with not getting paid enough —
went along? I spoke to someone today
who said he worked very long hours,
there is always someone else who can
take my job if I don’t want it. I
think those other sorts things that
people are talking about. They are
things that the Prime Minister could
fix if he wanted to, whether we are
in or out of Europe. Do you think
they are perhaps things that 80
typical labour activist such as
yourself perhaps don’t understand? I
don’t think that’s fair. 40% of my
constituents live in social housing,
the problems may constituents have
are the same problems across the
country. Lack of housing, being
underpaid, not being able to access
public services in the way you would
expect are problems that affect
everybody, no matter where they come
from. If you look around the
country, clearly those voters are
being lost from what the Labour
leadership would like to lead them
into. I think there are certainly
some areas where they have really
had it tough, Hartlepool and these
sorts of regions which have been
affected by the collapse in the
steel industry. They wanted to kick
the establishment and that is what
they’ve done. I think the message
tonight is that those who see the
system doesn’t work for them,
wherever they are across the
country, wants change, and many have
voted to Leave. It has been their
way of expressing their unhappiness
with the way things are now. It
Britain comes out, the EU is going
to develop its own ideas for rate
common European defence. What is
your view of that? Let’s get through
tonight, and then we will face these
problems tomorrow. Tonight… You
presumably don’t think as we been
told by the Leave campaigners that
defence is fine because we are
members of Nato and are not of the
EU, potentially closer I think the
EU and Nato are two sides of the
same coin. — potentially? Let’s get
through tonight and we can talk
about the impacts on defence if we
come out. We haven’t even come out
yet, let’s get the results. A
rollercoaster ride here with these
Very close, less than 300,000 votes
separating the two sides. 10 million
have been counted so far. Let us go
to the rollercoaster ride in the
international markets. You can see
quite vividly behind me the points
at which it dawned on the markets,
what was happening over the course
of this, the load is the weaker the
pound is and what we have seen is
something that I have never
encountered before. I don’t know if
there is a precedent for this on any
given trading day, the pound has
fallen from $1 50 down 10 cents. And
a fall of 10 cents is an
unprecedented fall for a reserve
currency. People are very concerned.
A lot of fears about people taking
money out of the country, this may
be a barometer of it. This is
overnight trading, the volumes may
not be thick but for the time being,
you have to look at this chart and
think to yourself, the markets are
very worried as these results start
to pan out. We are just waiting for
the result from Edinburgh. As you
can see as things stand the turnout
UK wide is about 70%. And In is now
ahead. Before I go another like to
thank everyone in this hall’s effort
effort. Better fantastic job. All
those behind-the-scenes… This will
be an area where the ink had a now
hoping to make up some ground.
Voting area at the referendum held
on 23 June 2016 under the European
Union Referendum Act 2015 and having
been authorised to do so by the
Regional Counting Officer I hereby
give notice that I have certified
the following: Count The total
number of ballot papers counted was
252,000. The total number of votes
cast in favour of remain was 187,000
796. The total number of votes cast
in favour of leave was… Edinburgh
vote in by a large margin. The total
number of votes cast in favour of
leave was 64,000 or 100 and 98. That
is worth 120,000 votes to the In
Campaign. They now are 200,000
behind. It pulled them up a bit
closer to the lead. Chelmsford and
ethics are voting out. The question
is whether London and other big
population centres could
counterbalance the middle England
heartland at away from the big
cities which are going heavily in
favour of out along with Scotland.
That is the result. Here in the
north-west, are really interesting
picture is developing, sky data
suggested that the north-west was
the most Eurosceptic region in the
UK. The expected in to do very well
here and so far around 20 areas have
declared, around half of the
north-west. On those 17 have
declared out and only three have
declared to remain. We are all,
Liverpool and South Lakeland, their
areas of high population so despite
the fact that the majority of the
county areas have declared out here
in the north-west, they have
actually only poll 44%. But with
small populations it just takes one
or two big cities to really turn the
result around. Here is the Labour MP
and the Ukip MP. What is going wrong
here for the labour in the
north-west, this is a traditional
heartland and it seems that they are
not listening to the Labour
leadership? It is too close to call
but I think you are also absolutely
right we have failed to get the
message across to what you might
describe as labour heartland and
that does give me some concern and I
figured it was — any postmortem it
it will have to be about how did
labour perform to get the core vote
to come out. This is a really
important point. The truth is that
Jeremy Corbyn just does not
communicate well with this the call
— all voters. They’re making a
final disconnect. They’re not happy
with Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership and
they are not happy that they cannot
talk to him in his language. They
have gone on voters to justice out
of Europe and that is what we have
seen that whenever the general
action comes there will not come
back to labour. Doing it a change in
leadership? You cannot carry on if
you cannot UK with your core voters.
Stephen Wolf for Ukip, you have a
smile on your face, high turnout,
that was something that was not in
favour of remain but how are you
reading at? They recognise how
important is this, it is not just a
once-in-a-lifetime vote but it is
also about what country they want
their children and grandchildren to
Bude. A stroke to be in. You’ll see
small towns and places that feel
disconnected from political elites,
you are seeing where the money is
weather is more well, there is a
north-south divide. There is a
divide between the rich and the
poor. You can see even the areas you
have no north-west. Look at Wirral,
one of the wealthiest areas no
north-west, look in the Lake
District and that is what is
happening here. For those who seem
to be benefiting from the European
Union, they are the ones who have
the cash. And that once were not
thoroughly poor and the scale and
that is why they disconnected. There
may be disconnected with a vertical
parties but that is a strong
message. Is complaining that the
wealthy areas have had benefits from
the European Union but the rest of
us are not. And they are telling us,
listen to us because you have
listened for a long time.
listen to us because you have
listened for a long time. The
listened for a long time. The
message about funding did get
through to voters. I think we are
better at being in Europe and I
think that is what we should vote
for. That is the ultimate result but
it hasn’t just in a referendum on
Europe, that is not the reality,
people are voting for any variety of
reasons. It is an antipolitics view
out there, they are not happy with
the mainstream parties because
labour and the Conservatives have
not been talking about immigration,
that readers had strongly, because
mainstream parties had failed to dog
about the last few years and you
cannot come on — failed to talk
about it. Now there are large
swathes of people saying enough is
enough, we want to be listened to.
That is what the referendum has been
about for my kind of people. You
look at the election system and you
look at constituencies and it shows
how people vote and where their vote
but is the first time you are really
getting a feel for whether it is the
city or the rural area, do you think
this is going to change British
politics? I think the cat is out of
the bag I think it is a fundamental
change. Not only are people voting,
more people voting than in a
post-war history, and whether we get
to the number of votes for remain
and we are showing that is a large
number of — largest number of votes
for any particle party. It is a big
message saying listen to us and they
want a different dynamic and we say
that immigration was an issue and
that people want to listen. Housing
is a big impact for them and it is
infrastructure costs and is whether
hospitable and schools are not the
sole reason, but that is a very
particular reason. Thank you. We are
also expecting to get the results
from Manchester, that is expected
around five o’clock this morning,
the counting is still going and we
will renew those results. I don’t
know which cover they want. — the
camera. Here in Belfast the county
has stopped because the four
constituencies have been
provisionally declared but we are
still waiting for a couple of extra
result of or we can bring you the
official Northern Ireland result.
Having said that there are 18
constituencies in all and extended
them have been counted so let’s talk
to our island correspondent David
Levens. As was predicted that
Northern Ireland would go for
remain, is that the weight is
looking? Of the 16 constituencies,
these are provisional results until
they are officially declared in
Belfast, nine are voting remain and
seven are voting leave. It is
largely as predicted. In nationalist
committees they are voting to remain
and it be more hardline unionist
they have voted to leave. There was
one main little party that has been
pushing for leave, what you think
the turnout and a result is about
their ability to motivate her
voting? Turnout in those matters
communities where there have been
voting to remain in the European
union, turnout is very low. Those
who have been campaigning to leave
have got their vote out and
therefore in the constituencies
where we have seen a vote in favour
of leave, the percentage of victory
is higher than we expected. It is
much harder to predict the impact
that Northern Ireland will have.
Thank you David. Let us have a look
at the national picture because I
think we are approaching the meat of
the night. This is close to a
historic moment we have 199 out of
382 results in an outer at this
stage fairly comfortable your head.
Already there are talks of David
Cameron possibly having to resign
tomorrow and possibly a general
election if at the end of the
evening we ended up in and out
position. But that does seem to be
the case. This is Clacton. Voting
area at the referendum held on 23
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Referendum Act 2015 and having been
authorised to do so by the Regional
Counting Officer I hereby give
notice that I have certified the
The total number of ballot papers
counted was: 82,703.
The total number of votes cast
in favour of Remain was: 57,447.
That is the… I would like to thank
you for the way in which the
campaign was undertaken. That is the
declaration for the Tendring area.
So that result was expected, judging
by the piles. We could see that the
majority were in the Leave campaign.
We know that there was a 74.4%
turnout to vote in this referendum,
much higher than the actual January
election. That was 66.3. Much higher
also then the vote in the European
Parliamentary elections. The actual
vote for the region, still to come
in Chelmsford, we are not sure what
time that will come. So far,
Basildon has voted out. Great
Yarmouth has also voted Leave, which
is no surprise because they were
number one in our Eurosceptic
number one in our Eurosceptic
rating. They have
rating. They have made their
decision today, that is the verdict
from Tendring.
As you can see on the bottom
right-hand of your screen, 48.4%,
51.6% other figures. Currently
favouring Leave. Scotland is of
course a heavily favouring Remain in
its results, 62-37. Our
correspondent James Mathews is
there. Scotland, so far heavily in
favour of remaining in the EU. All
those council areas that have so far
declared have voted Remain. IM in
Edinburgh, where we still have some
votes to count –I am. Very
interesting voting in Scotland, and
the implication that that has for
the UK picture as a whole when we
eventually reach the final result.
What bearing has the Scottish vote
had on the picture? In amongst that
is the SNP, we expect to hear from
Nicola Sturgeon tomorrow morning.
The question is, where does she go
with an independence referendum? She
has said that if a Brexit vote is
secured then that would likely mean
a second referendum. And as well. It
is not straightforward for her at
all. Firstly, will she be given the
legal authority to proceed with a
second referendum? Also in her mind
will be doubts as to whether she can
win one. Currently, there is not a
majority in favour of Scottish
independence. Polls have shown that
there would likely be in independent
Scotland vote, but polls did not
favour a vote of independence in
that regard. Much for Nicola
Sturgeon to ponder when she sees
what the final result is of all of
this. Thank you. Quite significant.
The Manchester vote is in. Going
across to Manchester at the
convention centre where counting is
under way. We are waiting for the
official figures. It was always
expected to vote Remain, Manchester
is a very pro- Remain area. It has
some areas of high social
deprivation, low turnout in the past
in Manchester, only 18% in the last
by-election. We have seen in the
north-west today that the turnout
has been about 70%. I am joined by
the acting Mayor of Manchester.
Massive turnout for the north-west?
This has really captured the people
of this region? They are very
interested and they care what
happens in this boat. I think it is
important, in a referendum, that the
public are speaking. A high turnout
is important. What is difficult at
this stage is to know what will
happen at the end of the night.
Obviously I was a lot more
optimistic earlier on, but we have a
long way to go. We know that
Manchester seem to be voting Remain,
we still have large swathes of
London as well as Birmingham to come
in. Manchester has voted Remain
because it recognises the importance
of this international city being
able to trade with our biggest
trading partner, the EU. And it gets
a lot of regional development money,
430 million?
As Counting Officer
for the voting area
Manchester, at the referendum held
on 23 June 2016 under
the European Union Referendum Act
2015, and having been authorised
to do so by the Regional
Counting Officer,
I hereby give notice that I have
certified the following.
The total number of ballot papers
counted was: 85,493.
The total number of votes cast
in favour of Remain was: 35,741.
in favour of Leave was: 49,707.
The number of ballot papers
rejected was as follows.
No official mark – 2.
So, Poole have voted out by a margin
of about 14,000 votes. So, Remain is
in the lead in the UK. — Out.
Joining me in Manchester in the
city’s town hall, the announcement
has been made. As expected, 60% have
voted Remain. A comprehensive win
for Remain in Manchester, the
turnout almost 60%. 59.7%, a little
bit lower than the regional total
which was 70% for the north-west.
But 60% have voted, and of that 60%,
50% have voted for Remain. I am
joined by the acting Mayor of
Manchester. Where does this leave
the Tory party? We delivered the
referendum, the Prime Minister
delivered it. Here we are, nearly
done. I think we have given the
public vote and I don’t think it
reflects badly on the party. There
has been a vigorous debate, but the
reality is that the public will
decide. I think we can come back
together after this, and unite
against a white what do you think is
more damaging for David Cameron, to
lose the vote tonight or to win it
with a small majority was like —
unite again. I think that it is a
positive either way, MPs want to see
a challenge. A Leave vote, there is
no great appetite to get rid of
David Cameron. They are two separate
things. If we get a Leave vote, I
think people want the members to
stay on and calm things down and
start negotiations. He did do a lot
of negotiating before. I think the
circumstances have been very
different, we are looking for a
whole new deal. I think that will be
easier than trying to get a better
deal within the EU. So, you don’t
think you should go any more was no,
I don’t think that is necessarily —
you don’t think he should go any
more? No. I don’t think that is
necessarily what is wanted. It is
his job to negotiate a trade deal
with the EU. Tony, looking at the
results and how they differ compared
to urban areas and rural areas, it
has given us a picture that we may
be did not have very competitively
before of how fragmented parts of
the UK and the north-west are. Does
that concern you? It is bound to
concern, everybody should be
concerned. This has been a profound
issue that has been bubbling for
many years. I think that the real
thing behind this is that the Remain
campaign need to address the
significant issues for Europe, such
as funding for different parts,
particularly the north-west, from
the EU. The issues around social
protection for people that have come
from Europe, the uncertainty that we
now face even in terms of the
political leadership. The
Conservative party are going to be a
very troubled party between now and
the next election. We are in for a
long and difficult ride,
politically. Thank you very much. We
are here at Clacton, we have heard
that Tendring voted to Leave. With
me is the vice president of the NFU.
You are a farmer, not far from
Clacton. Is this good news?
Obviously it is not clear what the
results are going to be, but I think
farmers are generally of the view
that if we leave the EU, it will be
very challenging and some would say
risky. A large chunk of my
membership would also say, let’s get
out, let’s rebuild the British
agriculture policy to suit British
bombers. A lot of your money comes
from the EU, some 40% of their
budget is geared towards
agriculture? We would accept that
maybe the risks are greater in the
Leave scenario, which is why most of
us would take the Remain position.
We will have to quickly start
writing the first British
agricultural policy for 40 years,
but we aren’t there yet. It may be
that, come dawn, we are in the
Remain position. Initially the NFU
were reticent about coming out on
the side of Remain, why was that? We
are aware that we are a membership
organisation, 30% of our members
were telling us that they would vote
Leave. We have to reflect that in
our position. At the majority view
was Remain. We are clear that we are
not campaigning all leaning on our
members one way or the other. It is
an individual’s decision to
anticipate the best way for it to
go. If there were a Brexit, where
would she expect the funding that
you get from the EU to come from? Up
to 3 billion a year? That is
politics, and I am quite sure if we
are Out tomorrow, we are going to
have to work hard for our members to
make sure that they get the same
opportunities in terms of support
and trade.
Going out to the declaration in
As Counting Officer
for the voting area
Dover, at the referendum held
on 23 June 2016 under
the European Union Referendum Act
2015, and having been authorised
to do so by the Regional
Counting Officer,
I hereby give notice that I have
certified the following.
The total number of ballot papers
counted was: 65,557.
A comfortable Leave victory in
Dover. So, the turnout has been
above general collection levels
across the UK, averaging 71 point
5000. 227 results are in and out of
a total of 382. Leave has what is
looking like an increasingly
unassailable lead.
It is four a.m.. You are watching
Decision Time In or Out on Sky News.
It is six hours since the polls
closed. And Britain is on the verge
of an historical earthquake
politically. Let us look at the
picture as the votes are counted.
This is the United Kingdom picture.
51.32 out. This is Bristol
declaring. I hereby give notice that
I have certified the following. The
total number of ballot papers
counted was 228,000 646. The number
of votes cast in favour of remain a
member of the European Union was 140
1027. — 141,000 M27.
The number of votes cast in favour
of leave the European Union was
Bristol votes for remain by a
comfortable margin of 50,000 votes.
This is Nigel Farage. The leader
UKIP. The dawn is breaking on an
independent United Kingdom.
independent United Kingdom.
CHEERING. This… This…
CHEERING. This… This… If the
predictions now are right this will
be a victory for real people. A
victory for ordinary people. A
victory for decent people. CHEERING.
We have fought against the big
merchant banks. We have fought
against big politics. We have fought
against lies, corruption, and
deceit. And today honesty, decency,
and believe in nation, I think, now,
is going to win. CHEERING. And we
will have done it without having to
fight, without a single bullet being
fired. We will have done it by
downed hard work on the ground. That
was done by people like my friend Mr
Banksy. And by people in the Labor
Party and Conservative Party and
UKIP and of no party who had taken
part in this campaign and will have
done it not just for ourselves, we
will have done it for the whole of
Europe. — we will. I hope this
victory brings down this failed
project and leads us to a Europe of
sovereign nationstates trading
together, being friends together,
co-operating together, and let’s get
rid of the flag, the anthem,
Brussels, and all that has gone
wrong. CHEERING. G 23 Do down in
history as our Independence Day.
late June and 23. That was Nigel
Farage. Leader UKIP declaring
victory. As you can see on your
screens, it is still fantastically
close. 49% for in with out on the
lead on 51%. Changing by the minute.
This is card of. — Cardiff.
TRANSLATION: The total number of
ballot papers counted was 159,745.
The number of votes cast in favour
of remain a member of the European
Union was 101,788. It is
confirmation dead bat Cardiff has
voted to remain. — confirmation
dead bat. The major cities, Cardiff,
Edinburgh, Glasgow, London, it
appears, Manchester, Liverpool, a
Newcastle all voting in. But the
heartland, away from the big cities
of the United Kingdom, going in the
other direction. We are waiting now
for West Oxfordshire which is the
area where David Cameron has his
constituency. It will be interesting
to see how that result goes in. It
does appear very much, as we head
towards the finish line, out are in
the lead at the moment. Let us go to
Jon Craig at the leave party. Mr
Barrett, having told us at the
beginning of the night he thought he
had lost, now claiming victory. —
Nigel Farage. Yes, what a difference
a few hours have made. Around about
11 o’clock in his first speech, he
was complaining about the two de
extension of registration and saying
that that might make a difference
and he might complain about that. —
dei. Later on he was still saying he
thought remain would edge it. What a
difference the speech we just heard.
He arrived here. There was
jubilation. The results, as they
have come through on Sky News, have
been achieved. BT is getting louder
and louder. Nigel Farage used that
phrase Independence Day, which Boris
Johnson used in that big BBC debate
in Wembley some days ago. What is
significant is that it is Nigel
Farage who is claiming the victory.
We are not hearing anything from
Boris Johnson or Michael that a
Micheal Gove. It paid tribute to
Labour and Conservative campaigners
and people of no party. John Mills,
the big Labour donor, said he had
made a 6-figure donation to the
Leave campaign. Mr Farage probably
expect to vote Leave but not Labour
constituencies in such big numbers.
We have a real party going on. The
only thing is, as is the last time,
there is no alcohol here. They shut
the bar at two a.m.. They think when
people leave they will go off in
search of more bubbly. Mr Farage has
claimed victory, really, only a few
hours after he was a bit
pessimistic. Perhaps it was mind
games. Perhaps it was all a bit
tongue in cheek when he said he
thought that the Mac remain had
edged it. He is not saying that any
more. — Remain. Mr Farage has
claimed victory in a jubilant
fashion. And you can see how
delighted these people are as they
cheer every victory as they are
coming through as we are reporting
on Sky News. Thank you. We will be
talking to Liam Fox in a moment.
First an update on what is going on
in the markets from Ed Conway. The
pound, which has been falling over
the course of this morning, falling
very sharply indeed, has continued
to fall. It is now at its lowest
level since 1985. An extraordinary
fall. Let me show you this. We can
look at the big screen. This is just
the intraday movements of the pound
against the US dollar. Just start by
looking at this. This is a three
o’clock yesterday, Thursday. The
pound was relatively steady. It was
getting towards 1.48 against the
pound. Rosa Burc little bit in the
first few moments after the polls
were close when there were thoughts
there would be a potential Remain
victory. And then look what has
happened since. Down towards 1:36am.
It was at 1:50 a.m., only a few
hours ago, now it is down at $1.36.
We had never seen movement like this
in sterling. Probably the government
would nick it as they do. Nigel
Farage giving reaction to
journalists. He has already said
that he believes David Cameron
should resign if he loses the
referendum. This morning it seemed
impossible. But the dawn is now
coming up outside on independent
United Kingdom. What has given you
the greater satisfaction about these
results coming in? I think seeing
what is happening in the big Labour
areas has done it for me. Partly
because that is where I spent my
time in this referendum campaign.
But also because it shows this
incredible disconnect between NSW
one, Westminster, wealth,
multinationals, merchant banks, and
or dairy people. What is Nigel
Farage going to do now? Celebrate.
CHEERING. After that, do you want to
be in a Tory- UKIP government? I
think this party will take some
getting over. Arseniy in a few days.
Nigel Farage there saying a new dawn
has broken. Independence Day for
Britain. With me is Doctor Liam Fox,
MP. Former Conservative campaigner,
cabinet minister. He has been
campaigning for this result. We do
not have a result yet. It is still
desperately close. Your confidence
must be going up. It is going up. I
think the actual numbers tonight are
confirming what a lot of us had
thought, that there is this
disconnect between metropolitan
Britain and nonmetropolitan Britain.
We have seen that right across the
country. The thing for us is to do
is to look to the immediate days
ahead. We have had people in your
report tonight they that if we leave
tomorrow we will not be leaving
tomorrow or any time soon. There
will be quite a period where we will
be disentangling ourselves from the
European Union. A two-year period or
than that. What we now need to do is
is to reassure people. — or more
than that. One of the questions has
been about the Prime Minister and
his position. Exactly. We have seen
the Parliament there. You are a
significant Parliamentary player.
Nigel Farage is not in Parliament at
the moment. What do you think should
happen now? Should David Cameron say
he should step down? No. I think he
should stay. There are clearly going
to be short-term turbulence. —
there is. As the Prime Minister who
gave us the referendum, he is best
placed to see us through… What? A
period of months? Whatever it takes
to get us into that position. He
said he will not stand again at the
next general election. It is therapy
takes us through the next period. He
is best placed to do that. — it is
fair enough. We are going to West
Hoxton Chernow. This is David
Cameron’s backyard. — West
Oxfordshire. Having been authorised
to do so by the regional counting
officer I hereby give notice that I
have certified the following. The
total number of ballot papers
counted was 65,719. The number of
votes cast in favour of Remain was
that of a thousand, 236. — 35,000
The total number of rejected…
David Cameron saves face by a margin
of some 5000 votes. His local area
votes to remain in the EU. But
looking at the way votes nationwide
are stacking up on the right-hand
side of your screen that will come
as a small consolation, with 258
results in now we are seeing that
Outer has a lead of some 400,000
votes — out. We were talking about
the implications. You were saying
you support the Prime Minister
staying for a term, but in the end,
can someone who has lost possibly
stay in office for long? It is a
question of whether he is confident
of his colleagues in the House of
Commons. He will. Won’t people just
say it is the elites propping up
someone who has lost? I think it is
the Prime Minister who understands
the sense of duty of taking things
through to its conclusion. I think
it would be wrong and against his
character to say I have lost the
referendum therefore I am going.
There is a duty to take that process
through to a logical conclusion. I
hope that is what we do.
What happens with Nigel Farage and
you could? Does UKIP merge? That is
up to them. I think most rational
people would say they have served
their purpose, they set out to have
a referendum and have written leave
the EU, and that has been fulfilled.
What is the point of UKIP in that
process in the future? — Britain?
Nigel Farage will say it is to make
sure the government goes through
with the decision. Every voter
should be asking their MP tomorrow,
will you stand by the verdict of the
British people? Even if it’s a
verdict of 10,000 people either way?
Yes, that is what democracy is. You
have to ask the voters to give
Parliament and instruction as to how
to continue. And your view is, Out
is Out, no attempt to renegotiate a
new deal? No, we asked people
whether they wanted to stay In all
Out. We are here to honour the
decision they have made, and I think
leaving the EU will be great for
Britain and the EU. We can see more
results coming in. Michael Thrasher
is in a position to continue
updating the latest forecast on the
final result? Yes, if you recall
some time ago I did a forecast that
had Leave on 53%, that has been
trimmed to 52%. The last run of
results that we have put in have
slightly assisted the Remain cause.
But it is still looking rather bleak
for Remain. It must hope that London
and the south-east can deliver. They
need good results in the areas that
are yet to be counted in order to
make up the deficit that is
currently projected with the
percentage to Leave. If you could
put it on probabilities now, what
percentage chance do you think it is
now that the vote to leave will
prevail? In terms of probability, I
would say it is getting towards
upwards of 70- 80% that Leave will
finish ahead. The crucial point is
that there are is still a
possibility, because there are so
many electorate is still to declare
their vote. It is not really
predicted what will happen, and I am
highlighting the importance of
London and the south-east, because
we have seen some very big and good
results for London. That is for the
remain side. — Remain. If that were
to continue, I would forecast that
the gap would narrow further. So, we
began the night by saying it is very
close, although it looks like remain
of — it looks like Remain are not
winning, we have not got the final
result. This is where the final
result will be declared, on the
platform behind me. We don’t know
what time, they have said
breakfasttime. What is happening now
is that we are getting a clearer
picture of the north-west, one of
the key regions. As you can see,
that is a key area. It is those
regions which draw the biggest
groups of voters. There are a
million more voters here than there
are in Scotland. What we are seeing
so far is that the vast majority of
areas are voting to Leave, but
Remain are winning because the
bigger population areas such as
Liverpool and Manchester have voted
to Remain. I am here with the Shadow
Minister for women and equality.
Looking at the analysis and figures,
do you think you have lost it? It is
looking very tight. There is no
doubt that the Leave vote is
stronger than had been expected or
hoped for. As you said, it is the
big populations that are going to
make a difference to the overall
result, we are still waiting for
London and the south-east for a
number of significant results there.
There is no doubt that it is looking
very tight. Why do you think the
Remain campaign miss read the public
mood so much? I think we always knew
that the public were concerned about
what they saw as some of the
pressures that were happening in
their lives, that they felt the EU
was creating or exacerbating. We
knew of their concerns about
immigration, that laws were being
made in Russells and we weren’t
having a say. I do think it was that
we didn’t understand what it was
that troubled people, but I think
what has been very clear is that
politicians have struggled to make
the case as to why it is important
to Remain, why the EU has been
pivotal. I think people found that
difficult to accept and because of
the pressures they experience in
everyday lives, they are looking for
something different. Thank you very
much. Celebrations are under way in
Birmingham for vote Leave, we are
just waiting for the counting
officer to give the official
declaration but we are hearing that
the second biggest counting area,
apart from Northern Ireland, will
not provide any solace for Remain.
We understand that the Leave
campaign has won Birmingham by about
3000 votes. They had a turnout of
63.7%, but a very buoyant mood for
many people. You can hear the big
cheers from vote Leave. They had
hoped that Birmingham would go the
way of remain, but Nigel Farage did
say that he thinks the big thing
here is what has happened in the key
labour areas. Birmingham is one of
those. We will speak to a local MP
for Birmingham. What has happened
here? As far as you are concerned?
It is a limited result obviously,
and it is a disappointment, but it’s
actually quite a small difference. I
think it is a disappointment, we had
hoped for better. Are you facing the
prospect now that Britain is staring
a Grexit in the face? Yes, I think
that is a distinct possibility.
There are a number of results still
to come in, particularly from the
London area, but it doesn’t look
good. What does that mean for
written? It means that the Leave
campaign will have to tell us what
they wouldn’t tell us in the
campaign, what leaving actually
means. Right this minute, the pound
is undergoing tremendous strain,
plummeting at this very second. I
think there is a lot of hard work to
be done to pull the country back
together. A lot of comment that
David Cameron’s career is over and
that his gamble backfired. What does
this mean for the Labour leadership
and Jeremy Corbyn, that he did not
do enough and didn’t convince his
voters that supporting a Remain vote
was the right way forward? I guess
everybody is going to have to do a
lot of soul-searching after this.
This result could have enormous
consequences of. Would you support
Jeremy Corbyn remain the Labour
leader after this? I think it is far
too early to say that. It it can’t
possibly just be down to him. It is
a bad result, and what we need to
know now is what Leave means. We
have not had that and so throughout
the campaign. Thank you very much
for joining us. We are anticipating
a win for Leave. It won’t be long
until the results are announced. I
am here in Wales where we have an
official result for this Celtic
nation. They have said no thank you
to stay in in the EU. We are waiting
on one result but it is
statistically possible for that
Leave vote to be overruled. The
shock came from Swansea, who voted
51% in favour of Leave. One wonders
whether this boils down to steal.
They have said Tata to Europe. They
urged their employees to vote to
leave Europe. Here are the results
coming in from Wales. A bad night
for Remain despite a win in Cardiff.
Thank you very much. With me is Liz
truss, Cabinet Minister campaigning
for the Remain campaign. It doesn’t
look good? We haven’t had the final
results. It is clearly going to be a
very close race. We have seen that
throughout the evening. You would
never have thought on the external
evidence that she would be trailing
by so much at this stage? The last
referendum was in 1975, the year I
was born. I don’t think any of us
have experience of these big
referendums. You can see the punters
and so forth talking about it,
nobody quite knew how things would
pan out and we still don’t. We don’t
know what the final result will be.
Reading a comment from the chairman
of the Council of foreign relations,
he says it seems likely that Brexit
wins, the US will be a big loser as
a weaker UK and weaker Europe works
badly for them as well. I think the
point is that we have given this
country a referendum. It was our
manifesto pledge of the Prime
Minister. I think it’s an issue that
has been festering for some time and
that had to be dealt with. The
British public wanted to have a say,
they are having their say and we are
about to find out what their result
is. It is incumbent on us to find
out what the British public decide.
Has a rejected all of you? If they
vote for Leave, they have rejected
the leadership of this country? I
disagree with that. If that is the
voting, we still don’t know, this
will be about our relationship with
the EU. That is what the referendum
was about, we have been through
every possible issue whether it is
sovereignty, the economy,
immigration. I think those issues
were well discussed. We have seen a
huge turnout, people have been
really engaged in this debate. They
have made a decision and we will
soon find out what that decision is,
and it is incumbent on us as a
government to follow through on
that. But we are the party that gave
people the choice. We are seeing the
national totals on the bottom right
hand side of the screen, 700,000
votes between Remain and Leave.
There are still 30 London areas to
declare, London has been voting 63%
to Remain. Do you think there is a
chance that London could snatch
Leave away from the rest of the
country? There is some chance and it
would be wrong to speculate before
we got the final result, but the
point I would make is that whatever
decision the British public have
made, that will be respected by the
government and we will follow
through on that. It is not great
stewardship of the country, if there
is 1% in it and we make this
historic effort to win the last 41
years of the British history — bin
Brazil about is what a referendum
is. Is as an important issue for the
country. Sometimes in general
elections issues get mixed together,
whether it is the NHS, the education
system, the economy. Our
relationship with the EU is an
important constitutional issue which
we don’t discuss properly. We will
go to Southampton.
As Counting Officer
for the voting area
of Southampton at the referendum
held on 23 June 2016 under
the European Union Referendum Act
2015, and having been authorised
to do so by the Regional
Counting Officer,
I hereby give notice that I have
certified the following.
The total number of ballot papers
counted was: 107,665.
The total number of votes cast
in favour of Remain was: 49,738.
in favour of Leave was: 57,927.
Southhampton votes out by a
substantial margin. 16,000 votes.
Southhampton votes out. 57,927 to
49,000 738. — 40 9738. Also seeing
London boroughs coming in. The lead
is still very substantial and
enjoyed by the out campaign at this
stage. Kamdyn in London also voting
in. 48.5% to 58.5% the current
balance. London also voting in.
But… We are waiting for the
declaration in Birmingham. We have
been told that Birmingham has voted
narrowly for leave. Some 300,000
votes in it. What does this
Conservative government to now?
Well, we get on with delivering what
the British people have decided. As
well as all the other things we
promised in our manifesto, whether
it is on building more houses,
improving infrastructure, on our
education system. But the important
thing, as a result of this
referendum, is we have to do
implement what the British public
have… Your labour colleagues are
already saying it is your fault.
They are saying that people are
understandably worried about
pressures on education, jobs,
housing, on the health service. —
Labour. It is not the issue here,
either Europe or the issue of
immigrant. I have been talking to
voters up and down the country about
this referendum. People have
understood the issues. They have
understood the arguments, the pros
and cons of being a member of the
EU. I think we have had the issue
very well even in this debate. If
the British people make a decision
on this we should follow through on.
I think it is wrong to say people
were voting on something entirely
different. No, they won’t. They were
voting on the issue put in front of
them. Which was do you want to
remain in the EU or do you want to
leave the EU? We do not know what
the final result is. My point is
that people are not satisfied with
health, education, housing. They
also disagree with you on Europe.
Surely there has got to be a change
of leadership at the top of that is
what people want. The Prime Minister
wine and overwhelming majority one
year ago to deliver our manifesto.
–1. A narrow one. It was not
anticipated. Let us not have an
argument. This is something which
the Prime Minister said was once in
a generation. More important than
general elections. It appears he is
on course, albeit narrowly, to lose
it. I am saying if he loses that he
does not have any credibility. I am
saying he has credibility. He put
the referendum in our manifesto. He
gave the British people a choice.
People are now making that choice.
We will find out what that decision
was. He did not sit on the fence as
Harold Wilson did in 1975. He led a
campaign which has just been
defeated, apparently, if these
results hold all the way through to
the finish. Harold Wilson did make
his position very clear in 1975. The
point is, a referendum is about the
people deciding. Not the politicians
deciding, Nobby business people
deciding. It is about members of the
public making the decision and the
government of the day carrying that
out. We were elected only one year
ago on a manifesto. We won against
the Labor Party, against the other
parties… Your manifesto to the
people may well have been rejected.
We put forward a question to the
people. With you put forward a
recommendation. It is different to
putting together a policy. Thank you
very much. As we are seeing, most of
Britain are voting for remain with
the exception of Southhampton. We
are waiting for that result in
Birmingham. We think it is probably
gone narrowly to Leave. We are
waiting for the result from —
leads. Initially we were told that
the results for Leeds would be
roundabout five p.m.. –5 a.m.. We
are now being told it could be six
o’clock seven o’clock that is
because of the 21 areas being
counted in the Yorkshire and Humber
region. Leeds is the largest. More
than half a million eligible voters
in the city itself. As far as
Yorkshire and Humber is generally
concerned, if Remain were hoping for
a small crumb of comfort they have
not got it from Yorkshire and
Humber. Like many of the other towns
and cities across the north of
England, certainly in the labour
strongholds, places like Barnsley
and Doncaster, or Rotherham, places
like that, the Remain campaign had
not been able to bring out their
vote. — Labour. There will be
questions about the Labour
leadership and how they have tried
to appeal to their core voters. A
feeling already from many
politicians here and elsewhere that
Labour simply did not get through to
those Cabinet labour heartlands it
has relied on in the past. Most of
the results, the one area that so
far has voted to Remain is Harrogate
by a fairly small majority —
Labour. Leeds will be some time yet.
Thank you very much. Things taking
their time, as we can see in
Birmingham. Let us look at the UK
wide picture. This is with over 300.
302 of the 382 results. As you get
more results in it is increasingly
difficult to change this picture.
That shows out on 51.6% and in on
48.4%. Nigel Farage, the leader
UKIP, is talking about a new dawn
for the United Kingdom. We also know
that Scotland has voted in the other
direction. Scotland is voting quite
heavily to remain in the European
Union. We have not heard from the
Prime Minister yet all from the main
Conservative leaders of the exit
campaign. Let us go to our political
editor Faisal Islam who was
beginning to get a sense of what is
going to happen in the next few
hours. Yes. We have already seen
that market response in the sterling
markets with Sterling falling to 831
year low. The immediate response, if
the pattern persists, will be
financial market stabilisation. A
31-year. Remain victory does not
look like the most likely. They do
not have the numbers to make up that
deficit we see at the moment. Dhody
is being certain apart from the UKIP
party where they think they have
won. The question arises how can
this be carried out if it is carried
out? That is where Conservative
rebels are most concerned. We have
heard the Prime Minister suggest
that if there is a Leave victory he
will go to Brussels, to the European
Summit next week and activate
Article 50 which will start a
two-year process. Many Tory rebels
would say he should not do that.
That will be the key tension point
for the Prime Minister is a leave
vote is confirmed. Will he activate
article 50 at the European Council
summit next week? One Keen Brexiteer
I have spoken to saying he just
cannot. That is where the focus will
be, the European focus, next week,
if there is a leave, Article 51, Mr
Cameron. Presumably we will hear
from Mr Cameron this morning
responding to the final result once
it becomes clear. We have just heard
from the Electoral Commission. An
estimated turnout nationwide of
72.2% in this referendum, which is
considerably larger than the 66% who
voted in the general election last
year. A big turnout. They appear to
have favoured the out campaign,
although that result not yet
confirmed or, even, predicted by any
of the news networks at the moment.
All are being extremely cautious. As
you can see on your screen, more
than 800,000 votes lead for out.
This has been a decision by the
people. It has clearly been, if it
is an outfit, and absolutely
historic one, a change of direction,
but implementing it is back to the
parliamentarians. Absolutely. What
is it that there is specifically a
mandate for? Yes for leaving the
European Union, but is there a
mandate to have some other form of
trading arrangement? Is there a
mandate for what some MPs believe,
what some of the Leave supporters
believe, which is to rejoin the
European Economic Area and therefore
stay in the single market. The Leave
campaign were clear about this. The
top of the campaign, that we would
leave the single market as well to
restrict freedom of movement. It
seems unthinkable that if the Leave
camp wind as seems to be the case
right now, that she could not have
some sort of restrictions over
freedom of movement. — win. But the
flavour of Leave depends on
Parliament, not just the House of
Commons, but the Lords. We know that
over 400 MPs did not back leaving.
It throws up quite an intriguing set
of circumstances. Various bills will
need to be passed. The Leave
campaign would like the European
Communities Act to be rescinded.
That is another one demand. That
will come out of the wash the
government if this does end up being
the result. There is a lot more to
complexity to this than just
flicking a switch and leaving. It
could take many years indeed. We
have now reached a point where Sky
News is in a position to call this
election. Sky News is projecting
that the UK has voted out. The UK
electorate has taken the historic
decision to withdraw from the
European Union after more than 40
years of membership. The expert
working out that projection is
Professor Michael Thrasher of
Plymouth University. This means that
you are certain that at the end of
the night that this will be a vote
for out. How can you be certain? We
are looking at the results as they
come in. We put in result after
result after result. The model
simply keeps telling us that there
is a lead for Leave over Remain and
given the result still to come we do
not think that the gap can be
breached, Gibernau pattern of voting
we have seen. — breached, given me.
We do not see anything of the result
still to come back and overtake the
Leeds Leave already has and will
continue to build on the basis of
what is still to come in. Dew have
any idea of the final percentage
margin? — do you? It is looking
like 48 – 52%. If that is true and
the model is stable at this point,
it is a huge size of the proportion
that is lost. That throws up all
kinds of issues in terms of it is a
very close outcome. All the
arguments that leaves you in terms
of why Remain has lost will
obviously follow on from this.
Although 52-48 sounds close, as a
margin it would be getting on for 1
million votes AU summit like that.
Indeed. — or something like that.
In terms of the gap of votes or The
Gabba percentage, it really is a
most remarkable result. We thought
that the Remain camp would
eventually pull throughout earlier
in the night. Those early results
that indicated Leave. At some point
Leave had a very big lead indeed. At
no point during the counts have we
seen a lead for the Remain side.
This is a catastrophe for the
opinion pollsters who have mucked up
again. They mucked up in the
election and they have mucked up in
this referendum. I think they will,
with some justification, argued…
And this is the problem with a
referendum, you either get the
result right… They would is they
are within the margin of error. And
if it is finally 52% for Leave, then
polls that said it was 49 or 48, 49
for sure is still within the margin
of error. Doubtless there will be a
further discussion about the polls
and the accuracy of the polls. I
think the result will overshadow any
autopsy examination, re-examination
of the polling companies.
As we said there, EU keep’s poll
appears to have been more accurate
than the other polls. As we have
been saying, Sky News is projecting
that the UK has voted to leave the
European Union. One of the two new
results came from Birmingham, Anna
Botting is there.
A potential electorate of 700,000.
227,000 four leave, 223,451 for
Remain. 50.42% going towards Leave
stop the wall immaterial I suppose
because every vote counts, all the
votes going towards the total. It
looks as though the West Midlands
will deliver a clean sweep of people
voting to leave the EU, what is your
reaction? It is not the whole of the
West Midlands, we have results still
to come from two electorates but you
are right, the majority of
electorates in the West Midlands
decided they want to leave the EU. I
am obviously disappointed. I’m very
concerned for the West Midlands
because it is a major exporter, we
export more to the EU then we
import. We depend very much on those
markets. What will that mean
practically? Do you anticipate
companies moving elsewhere? That is
not for me to say what to speculate,
but many manufacturing bosses did
right to say that it was a problem
for them and their companies, if we
did not remain in the EU. We must
have confidence in that. Our
products will now attract an extra
tax if they are imported into a
single market, there are
consequences of this decision. What
was driving people into thinking
that leaving the EU was the right
decision? Obviously, immigration has
topped everything else, even with
explaining to people… Despite
explaining to people that half of
the migration to this country is not
from the EU, nonetheless it was a
key topic. People cited for example
some of our public services, over
which the UK has no control
whatsoever. A Referendum Act
something like a lightning conductor
for concerns that people have. So
can David Cameron keep his job? I
believe he can. Thank you. As you
know, we have called it. The United
Kingdom will be leaving the European
Union, against all the expectations
of the bookies who at one stage were
saying there was a 90% chance that
we would remain in the European
Union. Not any more, not according
to Sky News. We have predicted that
we will be living. There is a future
of uncertainty for the United
Kingdom, whether that last for three
or two years, who knows? I am in
London because this is the home of
Boris Johnson. I saw Boris Johnson
on Wednesday evening and spoke to
him then. He seems pretty confident
and buoyant. —
events overnight have certainly
changed. We can actually see some
movement just in the window. We
believe Mr Johnson will be coming to
talk to us in just a minute or two.
Nigel Farage said that he is daring
to dream that Independence Day is
dawning on the United Kingdom. I’m
just going to go and knock on the
door. See what happens. There are
quite a few media behind us here as
well. Certainly, there are
suggestions that Mr Johnson could be
the next Prime Minister of the
United Kingdom. Whether he wants to
answer the door at this early hour,
I get the impression that… Shall I
tried one more time? We get the
impression that he has been up all
night watching those results. We
know that his advisers are inside
with him, I do need to warn you that
they will be some flash photography
if he does open the door because
there is an awful lot of
photographers. We are going to take
you to Jon Craig at the Leave party,
and then come back.
Thank you. I will be play on the
conservative backbenchers now that
the Tory Party is in turmoil, David
Davies. Watcher Mr Cameron do now?
Should he quit? No, I don’t think so
at all. What we need is a sensible
policy on negotiating remaining in
the European Union. — trading with
the European Union. Realistically,
30 seconds or 30 minutes or
something, really his authority is
shot to pieces now surely? One thing
I would say about David Cameron is
he is a very tough cookie. I
actually think that in the country’s
inches, he should supply some
stability while we are negotiating.
The referendum. Now, if one side of
it and did not win that side, but
that is what referendums are about.
How soon should he shuffled his team
and what should he do? I don’t know
about the whole team, but he has got
to have a team in place to deal with
negotiations. He won’t start
negotiating straightaway. He needs
to start negotiating what they need
to do and what interest they need to
protect. It is quite a complex
exercise, it will boldly get under
way at a week ago. Heals somebody
who is committed to that aim, and
there are are a number of people in
that category. You didn’t sign that
save Dave letter earlier, is that
because you wanted him to go? No, I
did not save the fire Jeremy Corbyn
letter I do.
did not save the fire Jeremy Corbyn
letter I do. Into election,
letter I do. Into election, you may
remember Jeremy Corbyn and David
Cameron knocking seven bells out of
each other. We now need to actually
put the interests of the country
first and that means a new
negotiation with the European Union.
Do you favour a general election?
No, I don’t. After the night they
have had, it would be pretty easy to
do that. I think it is important to
deal with the outcome of the
referendum, that will take two or
three years. Mr Farage was he making
a very triumphant speech. What she
think about that? I saw him making
his concession speech. , he I’m
It is only because David Cameron
panicked that he agreed to a
referendum, isn’t as? I think it is
almost nobody else’s show, I did say
almost. There are a few other Tories
who can claim that two. I believe
this is actually a victory for the
country and for everybody involved.
For the Conservatives of the Leave
campaign, four UKIP, for a series of
people who used into this and got
the result. A lot of industrial,
working class people from the north
and the Midlands which no-one had
expected to vote this way. David
Davies, thank you very much. I am
not sure all of your conservative
MPs share your confidence that the
winds will heal. That was a very
happy looking David Davies, at the
outcome of this referendum.
John, thank you very much indeed. As
you can see they on your screen, we
are predicting that the UK has voted
out. As well as her, Scotland wrote
very strongly to remain, so where
does that leave relations with the
UK countries? I think we can assure
them that that is the result. What
is the SNP’s result to that? It is a
concerning an disappointing result.
The SNP campaigned hard for Scotland
to remain in the EU. Will just get
this result from Leeds and come back
to you. The number of votes cast in
favour of Remain was over 180,000.
The number of votes cast in favour
of Leave was 192,000. Said it had
192,000 votes in favour of Remain.
That is not going to be anything
like enough to help the Remain
campaigner, they are almost 1
million votes behind nationwide.
Were going to go back to talking
about the disappointment for the
SNP. What happens next? It is very
disappointing for the SNP for
Scotland to be out of the EU. At the
end of the day, Scotland has spoken
and spoken decisively, and I know we
have spoken about overwhelmingly,
let’s not play this down, every
single local authority in Scotland
has voted to remain in the EU. And
barely see a 62% vote in Scotland in
favour of remaining in, as opposed
to out. This It is England, which of
course has a much larger population.
It has voted out but not so
decisively. This is Wales. Again, it
has voted for out. We do have a
split in the United Kingdom, don’t
we? We also have to remember in the
context of the referendum, David
Cameron and the Better Together
campaign said to the people of
Scotland that they needed to vote no
to ensure Scotland’s continued
membership of the EU. Now Scotland
is finding herself in a position
where she is potentially out of the
EU, and we look forward to what
David Cameron has to say in relation
to that. As you will be aware, the
SNP has been planning for oral
outcomes of this referendum. Nicola
Sturgeon is ready for this result.
If Scotland was to be taken out the
EU against her will, and that
appears to be the case as it
currently stands, that would
demonstrate a material change in
circumstance that is certainly what
we are facing at the moment. OK,
we’re coming up to the hours. Thank
you very much indeed.
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Decision Time In or Out?
Sky News has projected
that the UK has voted to leave
the European Union in this
historica referendum.
— historic referendum. Results are
still coming in. Here is the latest
picture. The latest picture is on a
turnout. In it is on about three
point 8%. It is projected that
Britain has voted out, simple
because the mathematics do not now
favour a reversal in that result. —
simply. We go to Kay Burley who is
outside the house of Boris Johnson,
one of the leaders of the out
campaign. Hello to you. Journalists
and photographers, camera crews
arriving here by the moment, as you
would expect. We have just been
hearing from Mr Johnson’s A2 said
that Mr Johnson has been up for most
of the night. — aid. He is now tied
and he will be sleeping for a little
while will stop after that, he will
be waiting for the Prime Minister to
make a statement. That sounds pretty
ominous. I do not know what that
will mean. He will be waiting for
the Prime Minister to speak not only
to the UK press, but the world
press, before Boris Johnson leaves
the house and heads to the vote
Leave headquarters to rally the
troops and hold a news conference
there. They were so sure they were
not going to win is EU referendum
that they actually cancelled the
vote Leave party last night. There
were originally going to be three
celebratory parties. We had the
Remain party and the leave.EU party,
which is Nigel Farage, Aaron Banks,
so just two parties were left. Boris
and the like had cancelled as.
Troops went to the headquarters and
that is where Mr Johnson will be
going when he leaves his front door,
somewhere around eight or nine
o’clock this morning. That is the
latest guidance we can give you.
They are little bit shocked, I
think. I do not think they expected
to be in a position, potentially,
where Boris could now be the next
Prime Minister of this country.
Potentially, an awful lot sooner
than any other had anticipated.
Certainly, it will take between two
and four years as we negotiate our
exit from the European Union.
Unlikely that Mr Cameron will be
able to hold on for so long. His
party is absolutely split down the
middle. We have seen a lot of blue
on blue action in this referendum
campaign. It seems now almost
certain he will not be able to hold
on. Whether that is today, tomorrow,
or in the days or weeks to come.
Potentially, the next Prime Minister
is having a few hours’ sleep in the
house behind me. Thank you. There is
a long way to go until that. First
of all, David Cameron would have to
resign and Boris Johnson would have
to win a leadership election within
the Conservative Party, presumably.
Meanwhile, we still have a Prime
Minister in the shape of David
Cameron, although there are rumours
going around Westminster of a
dignified exit for the Prime
Minister and the Chancellor of the
Exchequer George Osborne. Let us see
what Faisal Islam has to stay from
Number 10, where the Prime Minister
is digesting this massive defeat for
him in the referendum. About three
or four hours ago the Prime Minister
received a letter of support from 84
of the 130 or 140 or so vote Leave
MPs. In that regard, he may feel a
mandate to go on, if this result is
confirmed. The key red line from
some long-standing and senior Tory
leaders is this, he has said, he
said it in his interview to me, that
he would activate the protocol to
leave the European Union, which is
article 50, next week at the
European Summit. If he does that,
there are a senior Conservative MPs
who would think that is a red line
too far. There is no hurry.
Renegotiations would have to happen
if this leave the vote was
confirmed. It could take three or
four years. There is still
uncertainty around. We still have
not heard Conservative MPs go on the
record. The result has not been
confirmed. The news networks are
calling it, but Gibernau
Rollercoaster we have already had
today, even in the last five or six
hours, anybody in the Terron would
be forgiven for waiting for the
result of the confirmed. — but
given the. No doubt they are writing
a copy of the speech the Prime
Minister would have never wanted to
give. If this is confirmed, it is a
huge problem for his authority,
having staked so much on staying in
the European Union. He may well feel
that the action on the currency
markets have vindicated some of his
peers. I am pretty sure that that is
what George Osborne will say. The
Bank of England will be on high
alert in the financial markets to
sort out confidence in United
Kingdom, given that so many of the
financial markets had expected a
Remained win as recently as four
hours ago. That has changed the
result started coming in. Is We
wait. There is an awful lot to sort
out here before we get to talk of
leadership challenges and leadership
contests. There is the immediate
question of what the Prime Minister
does regarding Britain’s current
partners in the EU? Does he
immediately trigger Article 50 of
the Lisbon Treaty and start those
negotiations? Let me quickly explain
what Article 50 is. It is the
protocol of the Lisbon Treaty that
allows foreign exit from the EU. It
starts a stopwatch of two years, a
countdown of two years where is a
negotiation is not reach them
Britain’s EU membership woodlouse
automatically. If he were to
activate that next week it would
mean leaving date would be 2018.
June 28 2018. The Leave campaign
have always said that that is absurd
and ridiculous and should not happen
and the Article 50 process may not
be needed and there are other ways
to do this. There are other
possibilities. We have heard before,
several months ago, from Boris
Johnson himself musing that this
type of result, and whatever
happens, it is still pretty much a
48- 49%, 50, 50 1% the other that
there could be another offer. That
they could offer some big
substantial on freedom of movement
in other areas. — 51%. There could
be a new form of relationship within
the United Kingdom. It would seem
that if the Leave campaign’s mandate
is anything, it would be
restrictions of freedom of movement.
Under current arrangements they
would have to leave the single
market. Thank you very much indeed,
Faisal Islam in Downing Street. Back
to those houses of Michael Gove and
Boris Johnson which you see on your
screen as the main protagonists
appear and give their reaction to
this defeat for Britain’s membership
of the European Union. With me is
the Labour MP John Mann. He
campaigned for out. Presumably you
feel vindicated this morning. 68% of
my constituents voted out. It is the
Labour vote that has decided this
referendum. The Labour vote that has
done it in huge and impressive
numbers. There is a mandate that.
That mandate is to sort out free
movement in the European Union. That
is nonnegotiable. It will remain
nonnegotiable. People are sick and
tired of the way in which they have
no control over their lives. Cannot
even control the houses are built.
There are not enough houses for
young people. The agency were,
0-hours contracts… Very little of
that has to do with the European
Union. In your opinion, no. In Baz
and mine it has. — Khdair opinion
and mine. The agency is very much
underpinned by the European Court…
Warehouses are… That is not. My
point is that this is about shifting
power downwards. It is one of the
small but important things that can
follow of giving local people
control over local decisions. This
is really about empowerment. My
constituents want some power. OK…
What about Jeremy Corbyn. You are
saying this is Labour voters. Jeremy
Corbyn like David Cameron campaigned
for staying in the European Union.
He has been defeated as well, as you
say, by Labour voters. You are
Labour MP, I am asking about your
leader. Jeremy Corbyn will continue.
This will not get rid of Jeremy
Corbyn. He needs to get out there,
literally out there talking to these
voters, because he has not been
doing. He is not hearing what they
are saying, he is not understanding
what they are saying. That is what
he and his Shadow Cabinet me to do.
Today, David Cameron is the issue
today. Yesterday was… CROSSTALK.
People are already saying Jeremy
Corbyn should step down. Today is
about David Cameron resigning. David
Cameron has got to go to David
Dobbie has no credibility left
whatsoever. He is the most unpopular
person he is. — David Cameron. He
needs to carry the can. He called
this referendum. He lost this
referendum. He told us it would be
Armageddon if people voted Leave.
People have voted leave. He needs to
get out of the way. The pound does
not look too happy… No. And that
is a surprise. Speculators
speculating. This happens all the
time. They are speculating. Are you
not worried that there could be
quite severe economic consequences
for people who voted for this? No, I
am not. My concern is to ensure that
the lessons are fully learned. But
we don’t have a right-wing
government that ignores what my
voters are saying. This is a mandate
from Labour voters. Whoever leads
the Tory party next needs to
understand that, sorting out the
relationship with Europe is of
course… That is the vote. It is
bigger than that. I will ask you one
final question as you are an MP.
Over 400 MPs backed remaining in the
European Union. So who has the
majority now in the House of
Commons? They are going to have to
bow to the mandate they have from
the people. For Labour MPs it is
free straightforward. Most have a
huge mandate to get us out of the
restrictions of the European Union.
And I hope… And I think it may
happen that there should be a cross
party negotiating team that
negotiate with the European Union,
not just one party. I think the
country has to pull together and
unite. It has been quite a divisive
campaign. We have seen that. Let’s
pull together. One negotiating team
that has cross-party… The
suggestion is that the first person
we might hear from from Labour is
the Birmingham MP who was the
executive in the vote Leave
campaign. I think Mr Corbyn said
that in this eventuality she would
be the person to speak for Labour.
Let us see how the bear Labour
did… Sorry, not Labour, how the
vote out campaign did. We see on
your screens. We are projecting that
when all the votes are counted,
there are now only 42 out of the
280, 380 areas to give a result, how
they got there to this results. That
out and leaving the European Union
has won tonight. As we go to our
election analyst Professor Michael
Thrasher. What has happen tonight?
Quite an astonishing outcome in
terms of an extremely close-run race
which has seen Leave emerge as the
eventual winner. The model is still
saying 52-48. It has said that for a
substantial amount of time. We are
still waiting for those 42 results.
They really aren’t going to make too
much difference. The crucial story
is that in terms of the Remain side,
there is only Scotland and London
and Northern Ireland who have come
out in support of it. That really
raises up all kinds of issues in
terms of Scotland and, indeed, in
terms of Northern Ireland. But every
other region, especially across
England, has come out in favour of
Leave. And some areas in particular,
like the West Midlands, East
Midlands, the eastern region, some
other regions have come out strongly
in favour of Leave. To Ed Conway who
has been analysing these results as
well. Thanks a lot. Let us have a
look at our scoreboard of all of the
different voting areas across the
UK. You can see just how much blue
there is. Blue is Leave. Yellow is
Remain. This has been the story of
the morning as we have seen this
board get more and more blue. A lot
of people thinking there would be a
lot more yellow. This is based on
alphabetical order. Let us order it
so you can see it in terms of the
size of the voting population in
each area. Always the expectation
was that there would be a loss of
blue here. The smaller you are the
further you are over this side of
the screen. The bigger you are, the
further you are towards them. The
expectation was that there would be
quite a lot of blue here. According
to the Remain camp, they were
expecting to get a lot of wins in
the big areas, the big population
areas. Instead, look at what has
happened. We have a lot of blue.
Sheffield, Durham, Wilshere, all of
these areas where Remain thought
they had a chance and could actually
witness. They have not done quite so
well. In the end, there has been a
story about turnout. — win this.
Let us compare the different readers
which were expected to be strong for
remained and some which were
expected to be strong for Leave.
Northern Ireland have voted in. Keep
an eye on this. Turnout 62.7%. Let
us look at London. That was expected
to be strong again for Remain.
59.9%. Turnout was 70.2. Hire.
Pretty high. Let us
Now compare those places with Wales.
Have a look at England. Across
England, 53.6% voting in England.
Look at this. Again, turnout of 73
Let’s go to London now for another
declaration. I hereby give notice
that I have certified the
Out has won that electorate
comfortably. I am in Manchester Town
Hall, this is where the national
result will be announced a little
later. It might be near lunchtime,
but we still have 30 or so areas to
declare. There has been a big
turnout, the turnout nationally has
been 72.2%, the largest turnout for
any UK poll. I joined here by Nigel
Evans, a conservative MP” Leave
campaigner. This is democracy in
action, isn’t it? Absolutely. I
think we should remind ourselves
that if it had not had been for
David Cameron we would not have had
this election. It is only because he
promised this doing the last general
election, that we have had it.
Clearly I am pleased, I was just too
young to vote in 1975. This is my
first wrote about the governance of
the country. The people of the
country have spoken, and certainly
the electorate it represent has too.
In your heart of hearts, were you
really expecting this result? I did
predict the couple of days ago 82%
for Leave. Today, I stood on a
highway for about ten hours, hence
the colour I have got on my cheeks
and waved at traffic. The number of
thumbs up I got gave me an
indication that something was
happening in England. Looking at the
markets, overnight trading numbers a
novel is reliable but we will see
what happens in the markets when
they wake up. What you think of
that? Now is the time to buy the
pound, and now is a great time for
exporters as well. I was told that a
pound was overvalued, so there will
be some correction. People who tend
to make money when the pound goes
down will expect to make money as
well. The Prime Minister said that
this morning, as he did right at the
outset of the campaign, when he said
that the UK would be fined outside
the European Union. Well, that is
where we are. Do you think you will
still be the Prime Minister? Yes, I
have signed the letter and I want
him to be. He’s the man who helped
us our independence and gave us this
Yes hello, a rather desolate
backdrop here, as they start
clearing the table. Or all of the
votes have been brought in and
counted in just a few of the 21
areas in Yorkshire and Humber voted
to Remain, that was Harrogate and
Knaresborough very small majority.
The overwhelming vote from Yorkshire
and Humber reflecting many other
areas of England certainly, and
joining me to discuss that now is
Andrew Jenkins MP. You famously won
your electorate in the last
election. Let me ask you this
morning, did you expect anything on
this scale? ? I think there has been
a real performance. , I have been
campaigning as a Brexiteer and as a
Yorkshire woman as well, on the
ground I have been finding because I
am a member of Yorkshire, there has
been a real sea change. I was
getting the feeling, and I knew in
my heart that Yorkshire was going to
vote, which I am very proud of. If
you look at my election last year,
nobody expected us to win there. I
always think leave it to the last
minute and it will be revealed. As
we set in Yorkshire and Humber, the
vast majority have voted for Leave.
Who are those people, they must be
from across the border coarse. You
have said you had been to all kinds
of areas and found the same kind of
feeling in those areas. Yes,
absolutely. Aid and called in to my
local fish and chip shop today, to
get fish and chips for the
campaigning troops, and the woman in
there said that they had voted to
leave. I think this is a great,
historic time but also for democracy
really, we have had people that
turned out to vote for the first
time early on an issue as important
as these. It has been great working
cross party on this as well. There
has been such an engagement, and I
think that is great for democracy.
The pound has suffered a dramatic
fall, it is at its lowest for
several years. What you think will
happen now? I think markets will
fluctuate during this time as well.
I think the important thing is that
we have a safe pair of hands moving
forward. Today, it is back to
business, back to running the
country. The country has still got
other services that we need to run,
so that do business for me. Andrea
Jenkyns, thank you.
Northern Ireland has voted to remain
in the European Union. Out result
was announced in the last
half-an-hour Jenny Shin of about 64%
to 44%. By the time that result came
through, the only cheers you could
hear in the hall were actually from
the Remain camp. Northern Ireland
has voted to remain. Sinn Fein is
saying that it intensifies the case
for a united Ireland. It is highly
likely that they want to call
another referendum to ask the people
here whether they want to leave the
UK and reunite with the Republic of
Ireland. We will talk about that
with our correspondent David
Blevins. Are we expecting that
referendum to happen? Yes, a lot of
people were saying that if Northern
Ireland voted to remain and the rest
of the UK voted to leave the EU,
there would be calls for a
referendum effectively on Northern
Ireland leaving the United Kingdom.
We are already hearing from Sinn
Fein that it could happen later
today. We know that the party leader
has left his constituency, he has
come from the Republic of Ireland.
That is because they were preparing
for this eventuality. The dawn is
breaking on a divided United
Kingdom, with Scotland and Northern
Ireland clearly having decided they
want to remain, and Wales and
England having voted to leave. Given
the fact that Northern Ireland has
eight land border with a EU country,
that has raised questions over trade
but also about immigration as well.
Yes, this morning we are standing
when the UK would effectively end
and whether European Union would
begin. It is, as you say, the only
land border. It is currently an
invisible border though, there are
no border crossings or customs
inspection. That border would have
to be secured in some fashion, so I
think there will be all sorts of
discussions about what that will
look like. The Irish government has
an very concerned about how that
will affect bilateral trade. There
is an awful lot at stake here. Also,
an interesting result from the point
of view that the Northern Ireland’s
first Minister was on the side of
the leave it, and yet Northern
Ireland has voted to remain. — the
leave vote. Yes, Northern Ireland
board is the Republic of Ireland.
The First Minister of Northern
Ireland now has a challenge. The
other person who now has a challenge
she is the Northern Ireland first
Minister, Theresa Villiers, her
position you may be untenable. Will
find out what some of the
invitations are in terms of
East-West and North-South relations.
Our political editor, Faisal Islam,
is in Downing Street. When we
expecting to hear from Downing
Street? Well, I don’t know. Sorry, I
am being contacted by somebody here.
I must pick up what we have just
heard there from Northern Ireland.
The consequences at this stage, is
that they do not see this as about
one men’s job, there are massive
constitutional implications to this
and not just in the UK’s
relationship with Europe. In
Northern Ireland, Sinn Fein are
already calling for another
referendum on the border of Ireland.
It is also very clear now that
Scotland has voted for Remain, and
England and the have voted to leave.
Is that the material change that the
SNP said could activate another
referendum? There are a lot of
uncertainties now in Britain’s
relationship with Europe. This is
absolutely huge in the medium term
in terms of how internal workings,
it is huge economic Reece Topley
there will have to be some effort
not just to reassure markets in the
short. — in the economy. There is a
huge effort required just to ensure
that key industries will have
confidence to remain. Whatever
happens, we will remain a member of
the European Union for any
transition period but the method and
speed of our exit is very much up
for negotiation. Parliamentarians
who were against leaving by a
massive margin in the House of
Commons and the House of Lords will
have different opinions on how
exactly this should be enacted. I go
back to one thing, in my first
interview as political editor with
Boris Johnson a few years ago when
Boris Johnson suggested this. I just
wonder if we come back to this, he
thought that he could do a better
negotiation. Caught England comeback
with a better deal than they have
had in the EU, that is another
Will go to a Labour adviser for the
Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, but
Alastair Campbell, I want to use
your expertise now as to what you
think is going to happen now. I
think as one of your earlier
interviewer said, it is not just
about our relationship with Europe
now. The flow on consequences.
Obviously, we have to decide to try
to see this through. I do not think
there was much appetite within the
conservative party to push David
Cameron out. However, this is
clearly a significant rejection of
the policy that he has put out.
Then he has to start a discussion of
negotiation and that will be
difficult. What about the
international and UK wide
implications. Scotland, Northern
Ireland going in the other direction
and then nationalist parties making
it clear that they don’t want to
leave the European Union. I think
one of the so-called Project Fear
argument is that we kept trying to
get over in this campaign was that
there were incredible unintended
consequences of the vote to leave
the European Union. One is the
breakup of the United Kingdom. I
think we are looking at that. The
fact that Northern Ireland and its
relations with the Republic, there
will be a lot going on there that is
quite worrying. I think Nicola
Sturgeon, to my mind, the vote
having gone as it has in Scotland,
she would be perfectly entitled to
press the reset and referendum. Even
with oil prices the way it is, even
the public mood about politics and
economic in this country, I think it
is possible that could be won. We
are talking about Scotland going
off, possibly Northern Ireland
going. This is not just melt down in
the markets. There is much going on.
I really do feel so angry that we
had this referendum. That it was
promised in one set of
circumstances. We have had the vote
in a completely different set of
circumstances where a lot of this
rejection, yes, some of it is about
Europe, a lot of it is about people
being fed up with austerity and the
division and inequality in this
country and it will make it even
worse. The world will wake up to
this. You may be angry, but I have
to put it to you that in this
century the first Prime Minister who
offered a referendum on the European
Union was Tony Blair. To a certain
extent he opened the Pandora’s box,
didn’t he? It is true he offered a
referendum and then we did not have
it. I think there was a pretty
obvious reason for that. David
Cameron decided to have this
referendum. We now have to live with
the consequences. They are enormous.
I think they are so much bigger than
a lot of people who have been
leading the Leave campaign and
voting for the Leave campaign really
think. All the slogans are fine.
Take back control. Let us talk about
two issues of taking back control.
The French border will almost
certainly move now from Calais to
Kent. The Irish border will almost
certainly become a hard border
between the north of Ireland and the
Republic of Ireland. Scotland
possibly having a second referendum.
You will see the bounce in the
markets. This is why I was cautious
at ten o’clock when people were
saying that this was all over.
People are using this to make more
money. It will feed the whole thing
about inequality. The people who
have misled the vote to leave the
European Union will get hit hardest
by has gone. — led the vote. What
is your reaction to this decision of
the British people to leave the
European Union? We argued for stay,
stay in the European Union. Did We
not mean that things should stay the
same. Crosstalk. The public had a
strong view. We had a referendum,
which was just dead, the idea that
the British establishment can
continue in the same old way when
manifestly so many people in the
country felt a sense of anger and a
loss of control is the poster is.
The establishment have reaped the
whirlwind heel. — preposterous. We
have to put it back together in a
new basis. Mr Corbyn believes the
Conservative Party will now move to
the right. Which seems evident. That
will threaten the people, if I can
put it like that. That will threaten
the rights of Labour voters who will
appear to have voted for this, many
of them. That is one of the reasons
we said that our people should vote
to remain. Because putting the
Tories in charge of renegotiating
our relationship with the rest of
the world is a dangerous moment. We
will be raising serious questions
about how the government intends to
do this. There will be no
shilly-shallying, ducking and
diving. We are out of the European
Union. It will be done in a proper
way. The opposition stands ready to
help with that if there is a need
with emergency measures in the short
term. But we’re out. We will follow
the will of the British people. A
lot of people said that this is what
Mr Corbyn, in his heart of hearts,
really wanted. He has a long
record… I voted against him. He is
a friend and a voted against. I
voted for because I was convinced by
the arguments. These were balanced
arguments. So many people and our
country… You want to hear this.
The reaction in Manchester. Testing.
They made a democratic decision.
They reflected on our 40 year
history of the European Union and,
by a majority, they have decided to
leave. I think that is democracy at
work. And it is our opportunity to
take back control over a whole area
of democratic decisions, but also an
opportunity to renew some of those
processes. Because I think that all
the political leaders will have to
reflect on whether they have
accurately gauged the people’s
attitude and the people’s Desire on
how to govern themselves. Vote leave
has been a cross-party organisation.
And I think what happens now also
has to be a cross-party effort.
Because we have a responsibility and
that responsibility is to act in the
best long-term interests of this
best long-term interests of this
country. What
country. What I have just said is,
to make Lita all of our colleagues
in Europe, that Britain is an open
society, it is a welcome in society.
And we will continue to be
cooperating with European countries
on an international level. — to
make clear. But this is an important
decision about our future. And it is
about the people who have taken that
decision. It was not about us, the
politicians. Because this referendum
has really been fought against the
backdrop of all the might of the
institutions and of money. The
people were given the impression
that they had no choice but to
remain. But they voted to leave. I
think it is now incumbent on all of
us to be very calm, remember that
our responsibilities to the future
of the United Kingdom, and work
together to start a process, because
this is simply the beginning of a
process of initiating leading the
European Union. And in the long run,
I think, we will find that both
Europe and the United Kingdom will
emerge stronger as a result of this.
Thank you very much.
APPLAUSE. It was an agreement with
the Labour leadership that she would
be the first person to speak in the
event of what has happened, which is
the UK voting to leave the European
Union. I think the vote leave team
has been at pains to make it clear
this is a democratic decision about
the future of the country. It was
not about any of us. It was
collectively to enable that process.
Maybe it is because politicians have
forgotten that these things aren’t
about them, we are simply the
reflection of what the voters wish
us to do. So let us just start and
do what the people have told us to
do today.
APPLAUSE. Thank you. Deezer Stuart
speaking to Sky. Also making it
clear, speaking in her native
tongue, she was born German, that
Britain wants to remain friendly
with its European allies as it goes
through this extended process of
leaving the European Union. We can
look at the nationwide picture which
is developing, if you are just
getting up. This is a truly historic
moment. Really reversing at least 50
years of British foreign policy. The
British people have voted to leave
the European Union, which we joined
in the 1970s. The margin is 51.8%.
You can see that. To 48.2%. Sky News
believes there is no way that with
the remaining results to come in
that that could be reversed. Britain
is on the way out. That has come as
a shock, I think, to most of the
politicians on both sides who were
expecting a narrow win for Remain.
It has also come as a shock to the
financial markets. Ed Conway has
more on that.
Adam, you said that this was an
historic moment when it came to the
result. It is an absolutely historic
reaction when it comes to what we
have seen in markets over the course
of this morning. This is a graph
showing you the pound against the
dollar. Consider this, normally a
move in currencies of perhaps 1 cent
is thought of as quite a big move.
Have a look at this. 15 cents. Over
the course of the hours after that
result came through, the pound
dropped by 15 cents. 10% against the
dollar. We have never, not since the
pound became a fleeting rate
currency, we have never seen moves
of this scale in a matter of hours.
Not on Black Wednesday in 1992, not
during the financial crisis, not at
any comparator period to what we
have seen over the course of the
last few hours. You can see the
collapse in the currency over the
course of that period. That is
traders reacting. Traders selling UK
assets. That is people being
concerned about what happens to the
UK economy now. Whether they believe
it will be better off or worse out,
they are concerned about
they are concerned about
uncertainty. You see
uncertainty. You see it in the Hang
Seng. Let us have a quick look at
the markets in Hong Kong. They have
also tumbled this morning. Down by
about 5% over the course of trading.
A big fall there as well. The
expectation is that futures prices,
what people are kind of betting on,
in London, the expectation it will
be down by 6% in London as well.
That is enormous. That 6% could be
the fifth biggest one-day fall in UK
stock market history. It could be,
it already is, an enormous day for
the UK economy and for markets. And,
really, it has only just begun.
We think we may hear from the Prime
Minister before markets open here.
In Hong Kong they are well into
their trading day. Katie Stallard is
As you heard, it has been an
extremely volatile morning. We are
in the midday break of the Hang Seng
at the moment. It is currently down
4.67%. Let me give you a sense of
how that played out here and on
trading floors around the world at
the moment. This is that Groth you
saw there. This is how it plays in
real-time to traders looking at it.
— graph. Really steep falls, as you
heard. This is how traders are
getting information. There is a
special feed which is dropping
headlines about the British euro
referendum. This is a probability
odds Checa. That is being placed
this morning. — checker. I want to
draw your attention to HSBC which is
being extremely hard hit. It is down
over 9%. Standard Chartered also
down more than 12% at this stage of
the day. I have Parys Anand, the
head of European equities here at
Fidelity. What are we looking at
here? What is your analysis of what
is going on in the markets? We are
seeing some quite large-scale losing
currencies. And expected moves in
the European markets. The moves have
to be looked at in the context of
the fact that the odds were very
heavily for Remain. We saw strong
rallies in both the currency in the
market in the week leading up to the
vote. How much of this is to do with
the shock that it is not going in
the way predicted and how much is to
do with a genuine hardheaded
analysis of a United Kingdom outwith
the United Kingdom? I think this
more to do with the former. The
consequences with the Votu come out
are really only going to be learnt
over time — vote to come out. For
long-term investors in companies,
these events, which are largely
political, really only impact at the
margin. Our focus in these volatile
times will be using the volatility
in share prices to buy companies we
want to and for the long-term. I
think it is largely a political
event. Predominantly a political
event. It has some economic and
short-term stock market consequences
with that. Over time, these things
impact only at the margin. What you
think, this is an extremely little
question to answer, had you to play
out over the coming days and weeks?
Do you think what we are seeing now
is a one-day or few day shock and
things will steady out? From a
political perspective, I think there
will be a period of uncertainty. I
think that will probably leave us
with a heightened level of
volatility in the short term. There
was a lot of focus on this issue.
Although it may not have gone the
way some people expected, and
certainly not the way the bookmakers
would have expected at the start, it
has brought some certainty to the
situation, so think that may mean it
will be a shorter lived phenomenon
rather than one that stretches on
for months and months. Thank you
very much.
Are now going to the Green Party’s
MP in Parliament. Caroline, welcome
to you. You were campaigning for the
UK to remain in the EU. Personally,
I feel pretty heartbroken. I think
it is a devastating result. As many
people have said, it does
demonstrate the level of anger and
division in the country. It really
is a wake-up call to Westminster,
who have had a rebellion against
party leaders. I think this is
really going to shake up the
political system. My hope is that
something good can come out of it. I
think people have felt hurt, one
listens to and ignored for a number
of years now. I think what we need
to do is make sure that people’s
concerns are addressed. How is that
reflected in Brighton, which voted
its D A Points 6% to remain. I am
glad that Brighton voted to remain,
but I think that that leave vote is
a proxy for a lot of people’s
concern. I think part of that is not
just going to be about leaving the
EU, the constitutional change year
as well as some sort of electoral
reform so that people’s voices are
heard. We have a government that was
elected the just 24% of the popular
vote. What you say to people who say
that it just shows that people like
us don’t get it? You are doing OK,
you are well educated, and are still
relatively well-paid whereas
ordinary people are just being
squeezed. You don’t get it and you
haven’t responded to it. I think
there is some truth in that. What I
worry about though is that I think
people have consoled a wrong
solution. I can’t see how leaving
the EU is going to address any of
those consequences. If as expected,
we are now going to be teetering on
the edge of another recession, it is
only going to hurt the people who
are already feeling left out in an
economic system that is not working
for them. My big worry is that
leaving the EU has been sold as this
magical solution to those very real
concern. I agree with those concerns
but I cannot see how leaving the EU
will help with any of them. Can I
just ask you, after this massive
setback, how do you think this will
pay out for David Cameron and Jeremy
Corbyn? I think all bets are off. It
is hard to see how David Cameron
himself can continue as Prime
Minister. I am not sure. It is for
the Labour Party to decide what the
implications are for then. I think
more than talking about individual
politicians, this is a seismic
revolution for Westminster it self.
That is how we need to respond to
it. We need to have solutions to the
crisis we are going to face. We have
a political system that has ignored
the views of a majority of people
fork a great number of years. I
probably wouldn’t want to put much
money on Hillary Clinton being
elected as next president, maybe it
is Donald Trump who is visiting the
UK today, in the White House. I
think whether we’re talking about
the UK or the US there huge levels
of anger and alienation. I think the
challenge now is how we respond to
them. I think the future of this
country is not the sort of vision of
people like Nigel Farage and
violence, Boris Johnson. I hope that
the progressive scanned them
together, that has got to be the
message at the. It does not make
sense for progressive parties like
the Greens and labour and the SNP to
be fighting one another, only up
against a Conservative Party
potentially led by Boris Johnson
copy I think one of the lessons
surely has to be that we need
electoral reform, I think there
solution that has been sold today is
not going to solve the very real
concerns that people have about
access to housing and jobs. I feel
we need to come up with better
answer. OK Caroline Lucas, I think
you’ll be very interested in the.
While it is now accepted that the
Out campaign are going to win this
referendum, we can see now that
Leave are in fact only 300,000 votes
short of the 16 three quarters
million votes they need to win, and
it is of course with 20 plus areas
still to declare. So at that point,
we will be able to say for definite
that the Leave campaign have one.
Only 13 results still to come in,
and as we are seeing now, Leave is
over 1 million votes ahead of the
Remain campaigner. It is almost
certain that they are going to pass
that point very soon. We can see
them there approaching the winning
I am in Manchester Town Hall, and
this is where that final result will
be announced. They want to wait for
all of the results to come in, but
as you have said, there are only 13
results to go. As he has said,
hopefully we will have the answer to
day. It is looking clear that Vote
Leave has won this referendum.
Leave has won this referendum. Boris
day. It is looking clear that Vote
Leave has won this referendum. Boris
Leave has won this referendum. Boris
Johnson, who
Johnson, who has been. Dunne she was
very calm, she almost appeared
shocked really. She says what
happens now is a time of calm, quiet
reflection. I put it to her that
Boris Johnson should be the new
Prime Minister. She said that is not
something she wants to engage with.
She said this is not about the
politicians, it is not about her, it
is not about the people are led the
campaign. It is about the people of
the UK who have spoken. Tonight, the
turnout has been 72 point 2%, that
is the highest percentage for any
poll in the UK. This really has been
democracy in action here. More
people in the UK have cared about
this and decided to go out and vote
about this than they ever have about
any other political thing in the UK.
72% of the population voted
yesterday. Chain, thank you. —
Jane, thank you.
Marine Le Pen has congratulated the
UK on Brexit. Tom, what is the mood?
It is very quiet downstairs. It
completely split the voters. We ask
them what they thought, one side was
completely catastrophic, the other
side were delighted. We are
disembarking now to a very different
situation than when we went to bed.
I enjoyed year by a man who is not
from the UK, he is from France and
South Africa. What is your reaction
to this? I am really flabbergasted
by the. I think it is really
bizarre, especially in the aftermath
of the tragic events on the streets
when the MP, Jo Cox, was brutally
murdered. I think it is a real shame
for the UK. Economically, we will
see the impact. For the City of
London and its potential industries,
it will probably be a disaster. For
Europe as a whole, I think the EU
will come under pressure from other
countries. As the European yourself,
what you think? You have just been
to London and you are now in France,
what is your gut feeling? For me, it
really puts into question the
uniformity of the European Union,
you know. European integration
started after the Second World War
to try and create greater proximity
between all of the countries. You
know, I think as well for the UK
what you have got to worry about is
not only the economic implications
of that because you guys do a lot
more trade with the EU, your biggest
trading partner is Ireland.
Therefore, you are relying on the
EU. The financial market is going to
struggle. Multinational companies
like Airbus will no longer be
interested in producing yet claims
in the UK, potentially, so it is a
disaster. Not to mention, it is
going to fuel independent regional
movement. You are probably going to
get a lot of movement coming from
Scotland. It looks like even
Northern Ireland wants to go down
that route. We are going to spend
the rest of the day here. We are
going to go back towards the UK on
this very. We are going to speak to
the people on this very maybe going
home, to a very different country
indeed. Time, thank you indeed. Nine
hours ago, when we started these
results, the general expectation of
the pollsters and the politicians,
including Nigel Farage, was that
Britain would vote narrowly to
remain in the European Union. As you
can see, Britain has voted out. The
Out campaign is within 200,000 votes
of the winning post, there is going
to be a complete political
discussion here. We are going to
hear from Boris Johnson, David
Cameron and Jeremy Corbyn reacting
to this cataclysmic event in British
politics which is going to change
everything. Britain has voted to
leave the European Union, the
deadline is two years time.

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40 thoughts on “Decision Time : In or Out – Sky News 23 Jun 2016 21:30

  1. Very interesting, thanks for posting! Not getting the impression that the Sky News staff were happy with the result…

  2. So obvious to me that this was all planned. Obama coming here and essentially threating us, on top of Cameron trying to make out he'd got us a better deal from the E.U, on top of the knowledge those who really run the E.U are immune to any ballot box left any self respecting adult to say fuck this. The media only spoke to those who would rabbit the message needed to ramp up the confidence of a remain victory so sterling can be raped in the inevitable fall.

    Some, made truly obscene amounts of money as the whole thing worked out exactly as planned. How they must laugh at just how predictable we are.

  3. Polls mean nothing if some of the population tells you to push off, refuses to answer the question or lie.
    Everyone want's a crystal ball to see the future but they don't exist, get over it.

  4. 26:30

    “Itʼs too late to change your mind…”

    How many times since that night has Sky News leant support towards a second referendum❓

  5. On the night I watched the BBC coverage. I must say purely in terms of professionalism this lot are really dreadful. Poor camera work just pictures of people counting and disjointed voices in the background. Sky should be ashamed of its coverage.

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  7. 7:09:15 – Basically, Sky waited for BBC to declare that Leave had won. Then jumped on the bandwagon. Typical Sky. Always behind in the news.

  8. "remain failed to get their message through" Media, liberals, conservatives endorsed remain. HOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?

  9. Sky News have spent the last 2 and half years trying to reverse it.
    If you don't believe me listen to one of their standard Project Fear news reports, anything to discredit Brexit proper.

  10. the Sky TV commentators i bet they feel like crying they all look so sad thank god we have left the robbibg corrupt EU

  11. It took Sky a lot longer to relise leave were going to win. 5:25:47 😂. I'd already started celebrating At this point.

  12. Not only do the subtitles cover over the scrolling information, but every single one is gibberish.

  13. Didn't the American networks actually project "Leave" would win shortly after polls closed at 10 P.M. British Summer Time (5 P.M. Eastern Daylight Tome)?

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